A tribute to Rudy Giuliani's quest for G.O.P nomination.

That's what happens when people rely upon feelings and pretend they know more about a subject than others when asked a simple question.

Thank you. I was pretty sure my understanding was correct and that your statement was misleading. I now believe it was intentional after further clarification from you.

 

Well, I avoided that moral hazard by knowing a LOT more than you!

My statement was not misleading. Again, this will take a lot of effort to explain to someone with no background on the subject.

Suffice it to say, winning the straw polls in Caucus states are meaningless, if the delegates are all yours. Romney could win Nevada with 50+%, and not get 25% of the delegates, if his people didn't (and they didn't) stay around after the straw poll to elect their own people (or was unable to provide a full slate of delegates state wide). And as the precinct, county, and state conventions winnow the process, whoever has the majority of delegates pledged to them (again, totally separate from the straw poll) will be able to determine who the majority if not all of the state's delegates support.

So it really doesn't matter when it comes down to brass tacks, if Huckabee "won" Iowa, if he has less delegates going to the county conventions, he's not going to walk away with an impressive haul. He might underperform badly.

Strategically, the Paul campaign has already fielded two calls from other candidates who want to "work together". I wouldn't be surprised if Paul trades Iowa delegates with Huck for Huck delegates in Nevada or Louisiana.

 

That was mighty grim of you!

I disagree. The second place finishes RP has are virtually meaningless. They are non-binding delegates. That was the question I presented.

RP is last place in delegates. I believe six. The next closest contender is Huckabee, with 26 (in the last count I saw).

I'm afraid that no amount of deflection and pretending to know more about this than others, is going to cover up the result of the answer. Whether it's presented with condescending fluff, or a simple straight forward answer, the outcome of the answer is still the same.

 

Uhm, no. Again, I don't think you understand the delegate process.

Actually, Huckabee only has the proportional delegates earned in Michigan IIRC. Iowa, NH and LA, have not allocated any delegates yet. NH, SC and FL were winner take all.

Those are "projected" delegates, based on the straw poll counts. They are completely meaningless when it comes time to do the conventions.

That you don't actually know anything about the process?

In Caucus states delegates are voted based on who they represent, and who they are in the community. It has absolutely no relation to the straw polls, which is why %s were never released from Louisiana, which has already selected delegates, and yet they haven't had a straw poll yet.

 

You are pwning GTech's arse guerilla with your knowledge on how the process works, he is too busy watching FOX NOOBS or summats like that to figure it all out.

 

I still find it amusing that after all the cackling at RP from Giuliani he's out lol. That makes me smile.

The fact that Americas Fake Mayor is now behind Insane McCain is a major worry for the whole world though.

 

It's about time! I was wondering when someone was going to give an "atta boy" and slap guerilla on the ass! AGS to the rescue!

I do disagree though. guerilla is just trying to cover up for the fact that RP's two second place finishes are for nonbinding delegates. He knows this, as do I, and even admits it, but wants to introduce shades of grey to make himself look like he knows more about the process.

He simply needs to believe that his white power candidate has some sort of chance. I wish he were as passionate about America in the same manner.

g'night, boyz. Been fun, as usual

Remember, vote Ron Paul if you want people to have a chance at succeeding!

 

LOL is that the only chance he has of moving up

 

Yes, they are nonbinding delegates. This is totally in Ron Paul's favor, what part of this can you not understand?

If a delegate is not bound to the "winner", they can vote their conscience. Ron Paul has outperformed his straw poll results in all caucus states, by having significantly more unbound delegates selected, who will be voting him as their preference, than would be allocated proportionally.

Just laying the groundwork friend.

 

Every true American who understands what this country is actually supposed to be about (freedom & liberty) should be happy that that fascist pig Rudy is out.

 

Huckabee will be the next wacko to drop out.

 

Let's hope so. The sooner the better.

 

No! We want Huck to stay in! I was hoping Fred Thompson or Rudy would stay in as well. Don't want anyone going to the convention with a lot of bound delegates.

 

I have no doubt that al qaida and other terrorist groups are glad he's out. I get the impression that a number of terrorist organizations are hopeful for Ron Paul. I can't imagine why

 

I'm pretty sure Al Queda is disappointed. Rudy made the death and destruction of 9/11 so much greater with his horrible policies, and terrible management of crisis response.

Rudy as President would not only have made America vulnerable, our defense would have probably been so corrupt and incapable, that any attack would be very successful.

Everyone knows Rudy's record on the WTC and the shoddy equipment he provided to the Fire Department, which cost a lot of lives needlessly, because he insisted on giving out contracts 3x larger than the best bid to his corporate sponsors, Motorola, for radios that didn't even work.