A sure fire way to get out sandbox...

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by nate_king1, Mar 18, 2006.

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    Okay I got your attention! Don't LEAVE!:D

    Now can the experts give tips and tools to avoid the sandbox all together or speed things up. Thanks...
     
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  2. Caydel

    Caydel Peon

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    #2
    Simple: There is nothing you can do.
     
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  3. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Target keywords with no competition.
     
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  4. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamerâ„¢

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    #4
    Buy out Google.
     
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  5. nate_king1

    nate_king1 Active Member

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    So I'm guess you just have to wait it out? How awesome is Google's sandbox feature! Yes I can't wait! Ohh yea I can about 8 months.
     
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  6. SEO Guru

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    #6
    You can do these things
    1. Get backlinks from high PR sites
    if you cant do that ! Keep on reading -

    2. Curse google and fall in love with yahoo, msn all over again.
    3. Post (Quality posts only) in forums related to your content, and show your keyword as the anchor text for your website's url in your signature, BUT DONT SPAM ;)
    These two might not help in getting your site off sandbox but yeah, it should help you get targetted traffic :) Hope it does.
     
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  7. dturnbull

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    hope for the best.
     
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  8. digital1

    digital1 Well-Known Member

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    lol! The scary thing is that genuinely seems like the only way to avoid that wretched sandbox...
     
    digital1, Mar 19, 2006 IP
  9. GADOOD

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    Shoemoney posted about this stating it came from the horses mouth (Matt Cutts):

    * Pay your way in to the to the directory at Yahoo
    * Pay your way in to the directory at Zeal.com
    * Get yourself in to DMOZ.org
    * Pay your way in to to BOTW.org

    I believe this will reduce your time in the sandbox and may see you out in as early as 4 months - the reason being, in my opinion, trust. You have a few quality sites that require not only payment but more importantly trust and status. To get in to these directories your site MUST be of a quality standard.

    If all you have is links from article directories or forums that any tom, dick or harry can get links from - including free directories owned by any tom, dick or harry's then I would strongly suggest you do the above, else how can Google determine any sort of trust or quality standing from your site?

    I believe this will speed up the process like hell - not only that, but your site will get a great boost itself, thus higher rankings in the engines.

    Pete
     
    GADOOD, Mar 19, 2006 IP
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    listen and listen real good , this is the only way it works, aim low and climb high. start with complex 4 words terms and climb higher.
     
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    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    Not true!

    The best way to get around the sandbox is to never get in there in the first place. The sandbox happens when people do unnatural linking... then the sandbox filter kicks in.
     
    larysmith711, Mar 21, 2006 IP
  12. mister charlie

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    #12
    a few points need clarification here. first, you can't pay your way into BOTW or Yahoo. both offer expedited reviews for a fee, and require a review fee from commercial sites, but paying the review fee does not, by any means, guarantee a listing. i know that BOTW shoots down any site that does not meet our minimum listing criteria, and Yahoo has rejected more than a few of my submissions over the years.

    in terms of avoiding any so-called sandbox, i have absolutely no idea if having your site listed in BOTW would help you avoid said sandbox effect. additionally, i can not confirm, nor deny, what matt cutts may have said about submitting to any of the above directories. i like to believe that search engineers think highly of us, but what matt and jeremy spoke about... only they could say.
     
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    #13

    Then what your saying is, sites that go into the sandbox are flagged for unnatural link patterns, ie buying links, sitewides etc etc.

    If that was true then why would the filter eventually let those domains out if they was flagged for gaming in the first place?
     
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  14. aaron_nimocks

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    Sites dont go in the sandbox. Keywords do.

    Target competitive keywords and you wont be ranked. Target non competitive keywords and you will be ranked.

    I highly dont believe in all that flagging and link building "myths". I have had sites that I slammed a bunch of links on right when it was launched and was ranked. This is because I was targeting non-competitive keywords.
     
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  15. SEO Guru

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    You deserve the Post of The Day Award :D
     
    SEO Guru, Mar 21, 2006 IP
  16. Swiss

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    1. I agree, it is the keywords not the sites. You WILL show up as #1 if no one else is mentions this much. t is often more to do with internal linking. If you have a product page with 10 items and no one else does, you'll show up.
    2. I also disagree. I have seen sites that are number #1 for a month for an unpopular search word then fall to 14.
    3. I have seen sites that weren't optomised for the unpopular word in 2 suddenly rank for that word in the top 10 simply because they were the only site linked to it.

    It isn't one algo, it's several hundred.

    I know everyone says that it is the age of the domain,
    but I generally season my domains with a few webpages or by demised similar sites. They don't instantly work as you may expect but seem to go through the same lag.
    I often wonder whether the ADSENSE/ADWORDS
    and the sandbox effect of the keywords are related.
     
    Swiss, Mar 22, 2006 IP