A revolutionary new way to search the web is being developed

Discussion in 'All Other Search Engines' started by obay, Jan 8, 2010.

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    OK the other day I sat down with 3 people who I have kept contact with the last year and half (first started speaking to them in the second half of 2008 and have kept good contact with them.

    We were discussing a new revolutionary way to search the entire web without the big competition that people seek in today’s world.

    It seems that there are only 3 major search engines on the entire web – What does this mean?

    It means that the search market it pretty packed at the moment as these companies have millions of dollars, and revenue / profit is coming in every single day. How can this be changed? We thought of some pretty nifty ideas that could bring in line with new search, that other the past year we have researched to see if these would eventually come into play with the 3 mayor engines.

    On our researched with the new launch of Microsoft’s ‘Bing’ we have noted even this search engine has not incorporated the idea we have researched. This is a big bonus for us.

    Why am I even going to try?

    This on the other hand is to get the word out of my name, of my goals, if I could archive this would people think of me?

    A lot of people have come up to me with this idea, including my own family they have all said to me, you’d need at least £1million to start such a massive project up, however I think they’re wrong, I think I could do with little money and a little cost effective (obviously they’ll be operation costs and other things to worry about)

    I’m not saying I am rich, but what I’m trying to say I can pretty much do this all my self - Over this year and half I have not only researched the way that search worked, I’ve gain important skills along the way these skills are what the search engine needs to have a basic chance to empower the way people are this is search engine optimisation the single most important factor for any website.

    People often say that I am not very good at this; however I’ve proved them wrong many of times by simply optimising their entire website for search engine friendly use – this has proved them wrong with everything which they have stated.

    What features would be implanted on this new search engine?


    That would be telling, now wouldn’t it? Why would I tell you when Googlebot can simply index this web page and get listed for a keyword which Google can then see? That’ll be stealing ideas.

    This is not what I want to do; we are encoding the entire way that people search with more and more idea’s that we think will actually work.
    Again, I must tell you all that I regret the following to me this isn’t a competition, this isn’t a way to make fast and easy cash – this is simply to tell people that I can do this and I can create such technology with my hands and my mind.

    Thank you for reading this.
     
    obay, Jan 8, 2010 IP
  2. Kalyse

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    I don't understand this post. The only reason I finished reading this thread was because you had nearly 2k posts and thought that you would be getting somewhere with it.

    Ultimately, you could have written the entire 500 words above with:

    'I am creating a search engine'?

    I'm not trying to jock your ideas, but I don't understand what this post was about. The reason probably that they don't implement the "idea" that you have thought is because its not needed.

    With this in mind, onto logistics..
    Do you understand searching? As in, matching across an index. How are you going to maintain the index? I would assume you are going to create your own proprietary system. You wouldn't be able to get away with Lucene or Sphinx. Lucenes distributed index library is quite new and you can see problems with its implementation in Solr which has limitations.

    Please provide an an example of this idea also if you don't mind..
    The most conceptually unique searching filter that I think a SE has researhed is Yahoos Mindset search.
     
    Kalyse, Jan 8, 2010 IP
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    Also I want to note your other thread where you ask people :

    You are totally getting things mixed up.
    It is YOUR search engine, so you do with it what you want.
    Relevancy is one of the most important thing for a search engine naturally. But relevancy is your "response" to the user "event" of searching, trying to gauge what might be relevant for them.
    "SEO" concepts are neither a "response" or an "event". They have no place in the development of YOUR search engine. You create your own concepts based around the weight which you give to certain document attributes and score each document in the index respectively. For example, TF*IDF plays a big part in the scoring of a keyword to gauge how important it might be as a key word.
    For example, searching for "my mom has to run to the amazon rainforest". Why doesn't a search engine show documents about moms? Or running? Its because they are not an important to the query as amazon rainforest.


    In your other thread also.
    If you don't undrstand what "back end" is needed to create a search engine, then how on earth are you going to bring these exciting new ideas.

    SEO has NOTHING to do with a Search Engine, yet you think that it is a fundamental aspect in the development.
    SEO in the general descriptive term of the meaning is where [the publisher] tries to target the keywords to focus in on the relevancy of the search engines matching algorythms. SEO is not transferable accross all search engines for the simple reason that their matching algorithm (Which gives a score against each document which in turn translate to relevancy for the higher score) are totally different.
    To say that you will build your search engine around search engine optimization principles is a logical obsurdity.
     
    Kalyse, Jan 8, 2010 IP
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    A revolutionary new way to search the web is being developed ????
    A similar feeling here.

    It seems the creator of this topic was just too excited (no offense intended). I myself am not a web guru but i wouldn't count Bing as a search engine, i.e if it was counted among the top three search engines. It should rather be called a LOST engine. Possibly there would have been a greater acceptability of Bing had it been LOST.com instead of BING.com

    Coming back to the topic, I will fully agree that there is scope for new entrant but only up-to the point that some big corporation would dole out a big fat cheque and take over your start up. Then again that's how things happen.

    The hardware capabilities required to run such an engine would be so high that a millionaire may just get bankrupt supporting the hardware and everybody knows that money doesn't come in easily during the start. Google's hardware , data transfer capabilities are so powerful that they are now dolling out DNS proxies and this in no ways is good news, Google is slowly extending control over all of us and that is very bad.
     
    more_sem, Jan 8, 2010 IP