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A Potentially BRILLIANT Solution to the Image/Text Ad Dilemma?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by blogaddict, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. chatmasta

    chatmasta Peon

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    #41
    I actually think a minority of AdSense publishers used this technique. There is obviously know way to tell, but we shall see what happens. :)

    Funny enough, YPN is a lot more leniant on this issue.
     
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    hp420vc Peon

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    #42
    This whole issue sucks. Arcade sites make very little money with adsense in the first place and now with the images out, they will make nothing.
     
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  3. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Find other ways to monetize or build sites about something else :)
     
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  4. blogaddict

    blogaddict Guest

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    #44
    I hear ya... what really sucks is at one time they say it is ok and then they go and change their mind.

    I would like to see everyone get together and brainstorm a viable alternative. So far it looks like we have:

    1 - Keep your images up
    2 - Use google image ad next to text ads
    3 - Use referral button next to text ads
    4 - Really good design/blending
    5 - Get a massive amount of traffic on a daily basis
     
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  5. hp420vc

    hp420vc Peon

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    #45
    lol as you can see i have now replaced my google ads. no need to keep them on there and get those few cents to take forever in builiding up to payout.
     
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  6. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    #46
    How is bidvertiser paying?

    BTW I have removed this whole thing that was suggested in this thread. While it may be too early, this is the lowest CTR I think I have ever seen on this site after changing up the ads like that and have gone through about 800 page impressions already with only 4 clicks, very unusual.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #47
    Was using two 300x250 the same way some time ago... one image and one text links only .... ctr went down oh my god ... :( Experiment didn't work out .... maybe with other formats someone can make it work ....
     
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  8. blogaddict

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    #48
    lol...I was just looking at the same thing and thinking of signing up. yes...how is it paying?
     
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    chatmasta Peon

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    #49
    But isn't the point of this experiment not to get the image ads clicked on (they generally have a lower eCPC and have been proven to have lower CTR) but rather to use the image ads to cause users to ACTUALLY CLICK on the text ads?

    So whether or not the image ads are being clicked on should be irrelevant.
     
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  10. blogaddict

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    #50
    Eric, I'm trying your technique now.... I wasn't too satisified with test number 1. I had ZERO clicks on the text ads and 3 clicks on the image ad. A lot worse than I expected. Here's a snapshot of my setup now..
     

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  11. GeorgR.

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    #51
    ads, ads, ads. For me its just a cluster of ads....and from a webmaster's view this might be brilliant....but from a visitor's view not. The more ads, the more they will be repelled. (IMHO) to click.
     
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  12. blogaddict

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    #52
    lol...true... well, I'll try it out for a day and see what happens. I'll probably be best off with just a basic text ad.
     
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    #53
    Anybody knows whether a image ads or text ads works better? I never use image ads before.
     
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  14. blogaddict

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    #54
    From my experience text ads are better... the image ads I've put up usually look horrible - and I think they typically have a lower cost per click.
     
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    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #55
    Exactly!

    Also the less ads you have displayed on the page the higher the value of the ads (ecpm) displayed by Google.

    Also testing for 36 or less hours is not a test in any was shape or form..... nor does testing make sense during this holiday period. :confused:
     
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  16. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    #56
    Depends on the traffic though, while I only had them up for a couple of hours, I felt 800 impressions was enough to make up my mind since this is the LOWEST I remember the CTR being on that site, ever.
     
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    #57

    It is good in a way, you can control the image in a way.... If you do section targetting and and you are putting all the ad units nearby anyway, so the ads will all be about a related topic, and the image might just be related to the ads....
     
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    #58
    This is for you guys who are inquiring about bidvertiser:

    1. They definitely dont count 90% of the clicks you get.
    2. Their cpc however is nice (30-40 cents), let the ads stay on for a few days and you'll see that.
    3. ads are not targetted that well so this maybe causing less clicks
    4. Payout is easier to reach however.
    5. Blends well
     
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  19. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #59
    Well theres actually several different things you can do.

    When you experiment you should document your current results by day and week and even monthly for true pictures,

    Some days advertising pays more than others so running an experiment for one day or a few hours of impressions does not tell the true story.

    Many retailers document each days activities from the weather outside to current sales promotions etc so that the same time next year they know how to forecast sales or if they have a day that needs an extra push to beat last years sales figures.

    Here are several different things you can try,

    If clicks pay crap but your site draws and drives a lot of traffic become your own Advertising company. Here I have my own 250 by 250 ad with text links to an affiliate program and to two of my sites.

    http://www.profileguy.com/

    If you run affiliate programs pick one closely related to your Google Yahoo Bidvertiser Whoever ads and plop the link next to them.

    http://www.proxyburn.com/

    Don't like those ideas then use a big fat 250 by 250 image ad to one of your other sites

    http://www.cloakip.net/

    Or if you don't like those use section targeting and force a google image ad next to your rectangles

    http://www.vroxy.com/

    Or put a bunch of links to your other sites

    http://www.proxytree.info/

    No matter what you do try to run your experiments for a week and then document the results.

    Compare the results at the end to the results at the beginning and then determine what works best.

    Peace
     
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  20. Tyler Banfield

    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Google never said that you can't use images next to ad units

    The Blog post that everyone is freaking out about specifically addressed thumbnails lined up next to ad units
     
    Tyler Banfield, Jan 5, 2007 IP