A Newbie's Hopes and Dreams

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by jamm, May 29, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hello everyone

    I've been lurking around a bit and you all have such a good attitude I just had to join in.

    I recently became aware of adsense and I'm excited to get started. I recently lost my source of income, so I'm hoping that this could be a good way of paying the bills.

    I have enough back-up cash to last me until the end of July. By that time, my goal is to be making $15 per day consistently. That gives me 2 months.

    Do you think this is a reasonable goal for someone new to adsense? I've spent about 12-14 hours a day for the past 4 days studying all the information I could find on the subject. I know its gonna take alot of time and hard work...but do you think my goal is obtainable?

    Is it necessary to have a paid domain and web host to do this? Can I use free hosted pages for my sites (until I can afford a real domain)?

    Anyway...
    good to be here. If you think of any particular threads that I definitely should read...feel free to post a link:D

    cheers!
     
    jamm, May 29, 2006 IP
  2. superpump

    superpump Peon

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    Depending on the nitch you choose, will depend on your success. Three months is kinda pushing it, speaking from personal experience, it took me closer to 7.
     
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  3. Travis

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    #3
    If you had an exsisting website that was established, well marketed and optimized July would seem like a very optimistic goal. However "hosted" pages such as geocities/anglefire or the other ones that come 'stock' with ads on them are very nasty, and it is rare to find a "non-tld" that has made much money from ads or other affiliate programs. You need to branding that a tld has to offer.

    Do some research on high paying niches as well would be my advice, but don't create a site specifically for money (as hard as it may be). You want GOOD content before the ads show up :).
     
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  4. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    If you are serious about making money and are willing to spend a lot of time learning what you need to do, you should be willing to invest $7 for a domain name and a shared hosting plan (which can run from a few dollars and up).
     
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  5. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    Kinda pushing it there. It's not that easy. You have to create a whole site, add enough content to make people browse your site long enough for them to click your ads. Also, you need to get people to your site to begin with. How are you going to do that? The proverb, "Build it, and they will come" doesn't actually work on the web. You need to have good SEO knowledge, find ways into the Search Engines, and get visitors over. Have you studied up on this as well?

    $15/day in 2 months is next to impossible without advertising money to spend, and I'm guessing you don't have that. What is your site's niche/topic? This will also affect your potential earnings. A low-paying niche like games, humor sites, or video sites will make you pennies a click. A high-paying niche like finance will make you 10 times more per click.

    If you're serious about this, then Yes. You can get a new domain for one year and 2 months hosting from Godaddy.com for under $10, and it's $3.95 a monthy after that for hosting.

    Good luck.
     
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  6. finaldestination

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    Never break the TOS
     
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  7. Matteh

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  8. Sara

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    Well, I think it is achievable so long as your niche is good and you work hard at it. The odds are longer rather than shorter, but it can be done. I'm sitting fairly comfortably just below the $15 per day after 3 months and if I'd put more effort into the site and its promotion (essentially I have just sat back and let people find the site on their own) then I'd be at the $15 and above per day.
     
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  9. scoxy

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    Good luck. But no one can make you promises. If you were willing to put all your time into writing quality content and advertising etc, you could possibly achieve it in 2 months. However, if you have no money to invest in advertising and a layout with coding, that means a lot more work for you.

    Adsense is appealing to everyone, but if you will truely be pennyless at the end of July, it is a bit of a risk.
     
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  10. huntz

    huntz Well-Known Member

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    I think you would be perfect for blogger. Go there and create an account. Choose three or four decent niche's not too competive. Make sure its a subject you know a bit about or have an interest in. Write keyword rich articles and post them on your blog. Sign up for google adsense. Join the larger blogger pages in related catagories to pass major pr to you blog through your profile being linked from theirs. Write alot of articles and keep learning and you might be making 10$ - 15$ a day in two or three months but its down to hard work. You sound like a decent person so i wish you luck but its a hard old game to crack.
     
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  11. jamm

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    Thanks, folks, for your welcome...your encouragement...and your (brutal) honesty! Some great suggestions...leads me to more questions.

    I have a niche picked out and a plan for a site, sources of content...etc. Probably going to go with the blog...(that was a great idea huntz) but can a blogger site be SEO'ed?

    The highest paying ads in my niche are in the $1-3/click range. (I don't want to give away what my niche is, you understand)...given my short time frame do you think I should be going for higher PPCs?

    Also, I know I have to optimize for a search term that fetches the lowest possible number of results... Is there a hard and fast rule for #s of results? I realize that when a search brings back 60,000,000 results I can forget about trying to compete for PR...but how about 5 million? 1 Million? What amount of results do you folks like to see before you optimize your site for that keyword?

    thanks

    Oh yeah...one last thing
    I do actually have some cash to put into this project...about $400. Any suggestions on the best way to spend it? (not an invitation to spam me) ;)
     
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  12. themlife

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    If you need a paycheck by the end of July then you should strive to get $100 in the first month at least. You get paid at the end of the next month for what you have earned the previous month. Here is the payment schedule:

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  13. scoxy

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    #13
    $200 contingency. If the adsense doesn't work out well.

    Then Domain + years hosting ~$50

    Then $100 advertising.

    Then $50 for submissions etc.

    Or you could spend some on people writing articles for you, but it's better to write them yourself.

    I think this is win-win, because if the adsense doesn't work out, it sounds like you will have a nice site that could fetch a reasonable amount if sold.
     
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  14. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    You should use the keyword suggestion tool here to see how many daily searches are for a term - because results don't matter if few are searching for it.

    Don't expect to get $1 to $3 a click with adsense - those prices are what the highest advertiser pays but smart pricing will apply to a new site, and continue unless you are considered an authority site, you'll get far less (maybe 30 cents or less). Google is going to sandbox your site for any competitive term - which means your backlinks won't be factored in for ranking - which will make it virtually impossible to rank well for a competitive term for a period of 3 months to a year. You'll probably have better luck with MSN and Yahoo - but anyone serious about adsense should be prepared to give it 12 months.
     
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  15. jackburton2006

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    Heh heh. Everyone thinks they have the next "big thing". :D
     
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    #16
    I'm not trying to be rude, but if your money dries up at the end of July, I would spend the time looking for another job.

    But, if you can survive, even if you fail at this, then knock yourself out. Also, Good Luck, i relaly hope you achieve that. The majority of people who go into website creation without prior knowledge will fail, give up and go home. The rest stick around, use patience on their side and build through time and development quality sites, which do eventually earn an income.

    My suggestion, read every thread here on teh forums. This will make you prepared for what may, can, and will happen. :) Good luck.
     
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  17. teckie

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    Seriously I think you can find a part-time job which pays at least $15/day - ($5/hour for 3 hours a day), and you can work on your websites the rest of the day. This way you still won't die of hunger...lol.

    Blogger can be SEO-ed too, the permalinks can be optimised, the way you structure your page can be done too, and i think there's even a sitemap generator! Just make sure your article has the right keyword density and try getting the right amount of backlinks to your site.
     
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    It's fairly hard to earn any income from free web hostings. In order to step into the business with AdSense, you would need to have some prerequisites like several old high trafficable websites, a team of web developers and a good business plan. It's hard to earn anything out of AdSense without proper upfront investments. AdSense is a gamble to the certain extent. You need to invest first and outcome may vary. First, you need to sign up with AdSense and get an account.
     
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  19. fhirzall

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    Yeah, I also think you should try to get a part time 3 hour a day job and work on your websites at the same time, that way you won't really be that pressured and stressed out about traffic and clicks.
     
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  20. GAdsense

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    How much is the right density of keywords and links - Thanks -
     
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