A mind "game" about 'Nothingness' & When We Die - care to join in?

This was actually something that came to me when reading someone's post on here. Specifically this one that I found rather interesting coming from someone who's living and hadn't died:

Now I personally, don't believe on either side whether there's some afterlife or not. Making that clear from the jump! I'm just going to "wait" to see and experience (if possible) for myself when I'm dead and gone. So the sort of mind game is a random line of thoughts that entered my mind when reading that post on the 'Do You Believe In the Next Life?' thread. Have fun with it and post your answers to the statement at the very end.

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Nothingness is no thing put together
adding ness to make it sound "pretty"
if it's no thing
it's "not" yet been defined
at least not by "mankind"
since "nothing" can't truly and accurately be defined by the human mind
who would of thought there was something beyond the sky
to discover there's planets and a "galaxy"
proof of a "world" we call "space" - outer space
but before I'm sure people thought there was "nothing"
"nothingness"
there's that word again
so "nothing" is really something
in order to be called "nothing" or "nothingness" to begin with
which means it has been defined as something
also leading to a contradictory statement you made
when you meant to mean one thing but it actually means the opposite of what you meant it to be initially.

So if nothingness exists when we die that means there is something that really exists;
not the "you" of the earth but the "you" in what's said to be "nothing" and is.

The fact that you don't really know nor anyone for that matter
is the reason why it exists,
which is odd when "we" created it
but for sure that which was just said
tells us that there is nothing
no thing that we'd ever seen
yet

because nothingness is something
for the simple fact that "we" named it such
"undefined" 'til further notice

nothingness
nothing ('ness')
no thing
no

A mathematical play on words.

Find the flaw, post it and then perfect it. ​

 

I'm with you on this one. I plan on living around 60 more years (I'd be 74 by then, but I wouldn't really be surprised if I died earlier, what with the chemicals and global warming and stuff now), so I'm going to focus on life right now, not death or the afterlife.

 

how can one be sure if nothing happen after we die? that there is no life after dead?
is someone come back from the dead and tell us the story?
the problem is no one can be sure, and no one can prove it.
is there a life after dead, or there is none.
that where faith come in, because there is no prove, but we want to believe

 

Does matter evolve from something or out of nothing ?
-If you think it evolves from something, then how is something created ? Is it created out of nothing ? [ If not, what creates something ? ]
-If you think it evolves out of nothing, then how does nothing become something ?

Nothingness cannot exist in a material sense. However, when you die, you lose the title of "you" which takes the so called "you" into nothingness, in which "you" cannot exist. "you" in a material sense can exist, of course - your body does not vanish, the energy does not vanish and so on.

There is no "you" in what's said to be nothing. As in, there is nothing in nothingness.

That is simply wrong logic. This is what religions are based on.
This logic says the following:
If no body knows if X exists, makes it a reason to it's (X) existence.
This is wrong because:
If no body knows if X exists, it means that X may exist, as well as may not exist.

Same thing with the God issue. No body can surely say for a fact that God does or does not exist. Some believe (or 'think') it does exist, and some believe (or 'think') it doesn't, based on different assumptions and different logic.


This is a very difficult issue to discuss and debate about, because the words we are using were made by us as a mean of communication, and the meaning of these words can be interpreted in many different ways.

 

Why do we assume that we are somethingness NOW,
But when we lose our body we become nothingness?

Is our physical body our only somethingness?

 

We are a big bag of water and chemicals. Face it. The same water and chemicals in thier molecular form where here sinse the begining of time, It only does this function because they are in a certain order. When we die they cease to be in that order and cease to carry out that function.

After you die will be the same as before you were born, Nothing. Absolutely nothing. You stop completely. There is no "you" to carry on, There is only elecrical impulses and brain waves. When they stop, You stop.

 

you're all trying to look at it in a frame of mind that time exists on the other side. i don't think it does. we live in an imperfect world due to the fact that time is an imperfection. the other side i believe is eternity and what is there was always there and always will be there, we seem to be just a projection of it in some way.

God is love. All is one. Time is an imperfection

 

The following passages are taken from Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche. It was there I learnt that there is no life after death and it has somehow freed me from fear of hell and the greed for heaven. Here it is:

In the meantime, of course, the rope-dancer had commenced his performance: he had come out at a little door, and was going along the rope which was stretched between two towers, so that it hung above the market-place and the people. When he was just midway across, the little door opened once more, and a gaudily-dressed fellow like a fool sprang out, and went rapidly after the first one. "Go on, halt-foot," cried his frightful voice, "go on, lazy-bones, interloper, sallow-face!- lest I tickle you with my heel! What do you here between the towers? In the tower is the place for you, you should be locked up; to one better than yourself you block the way!"- And with every word he came nearer and nearer the first one. When, however, he was but a step behind, there happened the frightful thing which made every mouth mute and every eye fixed- he uttered a yell like a devil, and jumped over the other who was in his way. The latter, however, when he thus saw his rival triumph, lost at the same time his head and his footing on the rope; he threw his pole away, and shot downward faster than it, like an eddy of arms and legs, into the depth. The market-place and the people were like the sea when the storm comes on: they all flew apart and in disorder, especially where the body was about to fall.

Zarathustra, however, remained standing, and just beside him fell the body, badly injured and disfigured, but not yet dead. After a while consciousness returned to the shattered man, and he saw Zarathustra kneeling beside him. "What are you doing there?" he said at last, "I knew long ago that the devil would trip me up. Now he drags me to hell: will you prevent him?"


"On my honor, my friend," answered Zarathustra, "there is nothing in what you speak: there is no devil and no hell. Your soul will be dead even sooner than your body; fear nothing any more!"
The man looked up distrustfully. "If you speak the truth," said he, "I lose nothing when I lose my life. I am not much more than an animal which has been taught to dance by blows and a few scraps of food."
"Not at all," said Zarathustra, "you have made danger your calling; there is nothing contemptible in that. Now you perish by your calling: therefore I will bury you with my own hands."

 

*yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn*

Is anyone else besides DH going to attempt to respond to my original post? I'm getting bored here reading folks beliefs. BTW DH, you started off wrong, beginning with your first statement. So if you want to give it another go then by all means, do so. You don't have to, it just a fun, thought provoking mind game more than anything else.

Remember the statement to respond to is: Find the flaw, post it and perfect it.

I've got a quick question that has a simple answer to these so-called truths by folks like stox floating around that will put a screeching halt to that nonsense. Because I'm not impressed by it at all, no offense.

The Universal Absolute Truth to what happens when we die can be summed up in less than five words that I'm sure everyone including people like stox would agree on whether they admit it or not.

The question: Does anybody care to share what that sentence is putting it in its most accurate form possible rather than its short form?

 

Well if nobody knows , then there's no point in keeping this thread open. I might start a contest of some sort to see who can "guess" what that sentence is. That should be interesting. Well in the meantime, might as well close this thread - I'm bored with it and sure as heck won't be back in this section.

Mods please close this thread. Thanks a million.

 

Fantastic book. I'm a big fan of his.

 

I think you are echoing Socrates who always said "I know nothing" and speaking of death and what follows it, he said it's only possible to know whether there is life after death by dying and not just mere believing.