A good search engine or a bad search engine?

Discussion in 'All Other Search Engines' started by cantufind, Jan 10, 2006.

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    What is the difference between a good search engine and a bad search engine? No, it isn't just the good results it gives although that counts for a lot, but its more important to look at the bad results they give. Read on: You will get to understand Cantufind are miles better than the bigger searches, and if there is ever to be a threat to the so-called big people this is one of the better ones, here's for why.

    Most search engines, static or meta can give really good results, but it isn't all about what you can give, it is about what you can prevent from showing in results that counts in the long run. Everyone tests for positive results don't they, they use Google etc as the yardstick and quite rightly. To use a perfect example look at the three in the 'Game of Search' to see who the best is! Yahoo was the only search engine that had the common sense to put its filter on! Dull or what:eek: Whats the biggest issue on the internet? Its not SEO optimizing thats for cert, its the amount of Crap you can get on the net, and every one of these forums has ignored this, or so it seems. If there are threads on people who care about safe searching please let me know.

    I looked at Yahoo's page (because they appeared the cleanest) and saw in peak view on the A-Z strategy of reading a page its link to turn the safe search filter on or off! Now is someone gonna tell me that a perv is going to turn the filter on? Or even the curious teenager etc? Do a blind run with Cantufind.com on this and then when you get fed up at how safe Cantufind is, go to thier page and then turn the filter off as they obviously are filtered as the results will show. Oops!....They don't have one, 'what you see is what you get', you don't have any say in the matter, you put up with a clean search or go to the others who will give you that muck.

    I've seen people scoff at Cantufind on this forum, mentioning no names, and even put up with comments, like, 'worst form of promoting' blah blah blah. I would unashamedly promote safe searching to my grave! SEO's need to catch on, and catch on now, that the growing number of more serious crimes that are being committed on Children etc are invariably now being linked with the Internet instead of the good old fashioned 'It was the way he was brought up' excuse. Along with a good number of colleagues scouting the posts on SEO forums all we see is 'How to get listed with the Big 3, how to pacify them, algorythms etc, but could put on a fleas nuts what has been written about how bad the results the big three churn out can be. Filters are all well and good if they are not accessible to all but the most diligent of people, Mums and Dads etc, you can't rely on kids to respect the glow of the 'turn filter on' link, curiosity is far more powerful than that! Watch the news for christ sake to see how much of an impact the net has on sex offences etc.

    Does any SEO have any Children? I suspect they do but in the quest to feed them they look at promoting the very thing that in the future will put them in peril. I know, I have kids, and even my youngest son (18) isn't safe from the growing group of Googlers who learn and share their trade via unsafe searches.

    Before you all shout at me, There is no way am I implying that Google are deliberately aiding and abbetting crime, nor do they condone it, but do any of the big guns do squat to stop it? Its their biggest revenue so why should they? Wake up world, lets get SEO's (who to me are some of the most important people on this planet bar none, and if you have kids and a conscience you will know why,) to promote safe searching, and if it means promoting smaller engines like Cantufind.com then be proud of that. Stop following the pack and worrying about being the 'Vogue' becuase..."We can get you promoted and listed in 'XYZ'. Take five minutes, sit down with a cup of coffee and watch the news, then think, s*** eventually they 'Governments' are going to make it compulsory for safe searching. Even the B$$$$$ that the big guns have won't pay off every Politician!

    I've been giving quiet invitations to you on this forum, and my colleages on others, to get listed and interested with Cantufind as they really are on the nail with their search, bar none! Don't you think for a second we make notes on which SEO's take the p*** out of us, and those who don't? Do you think this will go unnoticed when you have no choice other than to submit to us. Thats' not a threat its a point of fact. Cantufind are already endorsed by the Governments it has already approached and will grow massively as they are as basic as you need, give very good results, and more importantly dont make it easy to get bad ones!

    Right, off my soapbox for now, lets see how many of you are going to beat me up over my rant on the fact that we need to make the internet safe and you SEO forums are the most powerful tool available. I'm gonna end with a partial quote from Oscar Schindler... "Having the power to shoot someone is easy (The power to get a high listing on the big 3) knowing you can shoot at will, but choosing not doing so is true power!" Use your true power and help make searching a lot safer than it is, and thats by promoting Cantufind.com and the like.
     
    cantufind, Jan 10, 2006 IP
  2. toughguy

    toughguy Well-Known Member

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    Seems to be OK.. but can it outperform GOOGLE??
     
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    cantufind Banned

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    On the safety aspect it can 100%
     
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    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    I must say that after doing a few searches on your engine, of keywords or phrases likely to return porn, and then trying on the Big 3 that your filters are definitely better. Could be a great way to market your engine. "Family-friendly" or "Child-safe" or whatever.
     
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  5. internetcheers

    internetcheers Guest

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    I like it, a family friendly search engine. Although google are pretty much doing that with personalized search now anyway.
     
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    A nice one. But I prefer the more established search engines. :)
     
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    Reuben Peon

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    established search engines have more sites that i'm interested in than small ones.
     
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    Sorry but blaming crimes committed against minors on filters is bullsh*t. Last I checked, pedo's don't go on Google and type 'unwilling targets u14', and if they did, I doubt the filter would make a difference.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Make it faster, clean up some ads (everything says google - LOL) then promote it amongst people who would be interested.
     
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    can anyone give an example of it finding (good) results as google can't find good or any results on the same search term?
     
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    surchin Banned

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    Hrm well, while I do think that your method of marketing your site may run into its own issues the main problem I see is that if you are going to market a "safe engine" your name should reflect it....I mean what does cantufind have to do with safe surching?

    Also how are you getting 26 page views per user? thats not even possible... thats about 5 times what google gets....

    anyways it seems to be a nice engine though.
     
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  12. dcole07

    dcole07 Peon

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    haha... :D he said surching... (since he has a surch engine, not a search engine! ;) ):p :p
     
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    nate_king1 Active Member

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    It is okay. 40 other search engines similar to yours.
     
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    I think it's a joke. Why would anyone pay to get listed in your ad-supported engine? No one pays to get into Google or MSN, which are far more used than your engine.
     
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    falcondriver Well-Known Member

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    so you saying pornsites are responsible for serious crimes (i guess you think about abuse here)? thats like saying "downloading mp3s makes me an rock artist" or "playing needforspeed2 makes me a good race driver" imho.

    kids are not stupid, if they dont find what they are looking for they just move on to another search engine, or they know someone who knows how to bypass your filter.
    i was admin in a internetcafe a year long and some kids visited this place quite often to download porn and warez. when i started this job i just installed a free proxy to filter bad pages and google querys for some keywords, but it was quite useless (yeah i know there are better solutions for this probem, but i had no budget). at the end i told them that i kick them all out if i find another porn or warez site in my logs, and it worked.

    you better spend some time with your kids instead of leaving the alone with a computer all the time, or you just ignore all responsibility and swap your kids for a cat instead.
     
    falcondriver, Aug 10, 2006 IP