We've all heard of "cook off contests" right? Well I just had a hair ball idea that my copy writing problem might be a way to trade some publicity for some copy writing services. Here is the problem: I am attempting a rather unique web site at www.BungeeBones.com Describing it and writing about it has been a real challenge. I've rewritten and rewritten and rewritten again. I think I am getting close From the www.BungeeBones.com page there are links to 8 informational pages plus one registration page and one login page. What I want to do is offer the 8 pages to other websites to install on their site as well (so I'll put them in a zip along with the directory script that I offer). Here are some proposed rules: 1) Install the web directory on your website (free) 2) Gather those 8 pages up from the source code and add them to your site (all in the same directory folder that the web directory script is in) 3) Edit, modify, do whatever copywriters do to the material. 4) Post your link to it here (I think that's allowed right?) 5) Everyone cast their vote of first place 2nd place and 3rd place with a post When it's all done, they'll all serve as great demos of the value of copywriting services.
Just want to understand I understand this contest... I'm to install your software on my server with the same directory categories and listings as all the other sites using your service, which I can only presume like most free directory scripts has backlinks to your site on every page; rewrite 8 pages of sales copy for your software; and I get a link from this DP thread to a 8 page sales piece for your product sitting on my server that I have your permission to use as a demo of my copywriting services? And, the "winner" of this dubious contest gets what exactly? You have reached a new low, even for DP - 8 pages of sales copy in exchange for a link on a DP thread. You're right, this is a hair ball idea.
Can we post content writing contests in this forum? Because I have a contest for writing a very short article which has just began this month.
If you write as well as you presume, i presume the height of your writing achievements is "letters to the editor" Donnoh, dpends if you right better dan me (you strung an aweful lot of thoughts together there in your post). I know i do better than that so you probably would be wasting your time and mine by attempting to rewrite anything. Hmmm, too lazy to even look at it. Not a good sign either. And you are obviously a master at putting the best light on matters. That's definitely a plus. Whether anyone cares to participate or not (especially after this welcome) is really not all that important to me. I was just making a post. But from what I see of your writing skills and attitude i don't think you need to be concerned too much about winning any writing contests - but I acknowledge that may be just a bit presumptuous on my part. I do wish you the best on your writing career (assuming you even have one). Oh yeah, you do! Yeah, sure you do!
I did look at your site. Otherwise, how would I know that every site participating would have the same categories and listings? The one site that I did find using your system has three links back to your site and your branding all over the page. Most of the other directory software companies offering free scripts at least restrict themselves to a footer link. There are other forum members who have asked for help and received hundreds of dollars worth of advice and critiques for free from the writers here. Had you simply asked for help or asked for bids you would have gotten a much different welcome from everyone here. Instead you post a dubious contest that is aimed at getting 8 pages of free sales copy along with more users for your system.
YMC, let's start over. You wrote - I started the thread with In my way of thinking, offering to trade IS a form of compensation! Either you 1) gloss over that in order to slander and assassinate my character 2) feel an offer to trade with one of "dubious" character is beneath you 3) it is a cheap shot to puff your self up at the expense of someone just putting a simple request out there. To say that I was attempting anything "dubious" when I put it right out there that it was a trade of advertising services for copyrighting is way out of line. If you don't feel that the offer is enough for your services, fine, but frankly, just stay out of it then and mind your own business, especially when your opinions are so poorly researched. Now regarding the quality of the advertising offer, there are TEN independent sites with the script installed (not one as you imply) plus five of my own. If you had spent even 5 minutes you would have come to the page that lists them and that reports how much traffic they each have contributed. And if you had read just a little, you would realize that management is also included FREE so they receive much more than "software" as you state. Once someone installs the directory they do not have to review sites, check for dead links etc. I didn't notice you also operate a web directory so I'm sure you are aware of the maintenance one has to do operating a web directory. Let's compare notes about our directories, okay? Your site has 751 listings, mine has 1,735. Your site was started 6 mos earlier than mine. I have 10 directories installed on other sites (not just one as you insinuate) and a number on other of my own sites. I tally the queries to the database each time a category is called for by an install. All together there are been 300,000 requests made to the server with each one displaying 20 links (so there conceivably could be 20 links "clicked" per view). Of that grand total of 300,000 queries my own site has supplied only 54190 (I am barely able to maintain 2nd place). The point being the traffic is larger than just my site. When someone adds their link to the directory from any of the sites it gets reviewed (free) and distributed (free) to all the directories and is totally maintenance free for the site owner. As the number of directories increase the link will be included in them as well. Compared to your site, I fill out your form to get on just your site. To get on ten directories of similar caliber I have to visit each and fill out ten forms. I don't get any future benefit beyond that. And each site owner has to spend the time reviewing the same link ( a total waste of their time). Now, one of the key ingredients of being "dubious" in my mind would be keeping things hidden. You offer paid links on your site. if one was to advertise on your site wouldn't a prudent person want to know your traffic numbers? I scoured for longer than you probably spent on my site but failed to find any figures about your traffic numbers anywhere? So you take people's money without them having any clue as to what they will be getting? Seriously, that is being dubious!
I never said there was only one site using your program, I said I just looked at one I found through a search. Yes, my niche directory has fewer listings than your general directory. Considering general directories cover every topic and not just one, a high quality general directory should easily have 10 times or more listings than most niche directories. Your system does provide a great way for people to own a directory without any work. As long as they don't mind having the same exact content as everyone else in the network, it's not a bad offering. OK, I do stand corrected, your offer is clear...for copywriting/editing services worth a bare minimum of $400, you are offering "advertising services" and participation in your free auto-directory service.
A competition, great, don't really understand the rules though, probably just being a dunderhead I suppose.
Ok, thanks to YMC I'll have to admit to being naive as to what is involved in copywriting. I've done some research where they state rewriting someone else's work can be more arduous and difficult than starting from scratch. So I totally underestimated the value of what I was asking for and so, do apologize for being so far off the mark.