A bit harsh IMHO - Paris Hilton Hacked phone teen sentenced

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  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    So, if a hacker broke into your computer and stole private information, you'd prefer him to tell you how he did it so it wouldnt happen in the future rather than be sentenced. Not too much incentive there for him not to do it again.
     
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  3. zman

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    Yeah no kidding. 11 months on a first offense and only 17 years old? If it were my company I would have hired him in a heartbeat. Now the hacker world knows what they can do.

    Keep in mind it was a cell phone. I agree there should be some punishment but it seems a bit harsh IMHO.
     
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  4. TommyD

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    Actually the Paris phone hacking looks trivial. I read that he made several bomb threats to schools.

    Maybe 11 months wasn't enough? :confused:

    tom
     
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    If that is the case then it may be a different story. I didnt read the full article.
     
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  6. TommyD

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    Might want to read how he made threats against the phone companies too. ;)

    tom
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Most people who hack do not do so for malicious purposes. Besides, if anything all this did for Paris was further ad to her no-talent fame. I doubt it caused many problems for her. For those whose numbers were in there? Perhaps. But then again, keeping information you do not want others to have on a personal cell phone is not a great idea.

    And yes, if someone found a flaw in the MacOS that lead to a security risk, sure, I would like to know how it was done, as would Apple I would assume so that it could be fixed.

    All I implied is that the situation was quite comical. I just think the punishment was a bit harsh given who was involved and the circumstances.

    Ultimately this was not really a case of hacking, but social engineering. This kid obviously watched "Hackers" and thought, hell, I will just call T-Mobile and ask them for the info I need. And... They gave it to them.

    Wrong? Yes. Ingenious? Yes. Humorous? To me, yes on a lighter note anyway.
     
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  8. zman

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    #8
    Good line.
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I did not catch that... The article is a bit misleading then. It makes it look like the kid got time for Hacking Paris's cheesey phone. There are obviously a lot of other charges that had to play into this that came up in court.
     
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    Personally I find the two years without a computer harsher than the 11 months detention (remember that's a juvie facility, NOT a prison). Just because you're sentenced to 11 months doesn't mean you always end up serving the whole time period. I'm sure he'll get picked up by some high paying firm after he does his time. They'll probably send him to school, have him do R&D, and find ways for him to get around the probation. :cool:
     
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    "The teen was part of a loosely organized group of about 8 to 12 hackers, called the Defonic Team Screen Name Club, which hacked into a number of computer networks, according to a security expert who was contacted by the group. "These kind of kids, they come and go," said Jack Koziol, program manager with Infosec Institute Inc., in Oak Park, Ill. "They put one of them in juvenile hall, there are 500 to replace them the next day."


    which will be made first...hollywood movie or after school special :confused:
     
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  12. zman

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    lol, good question.
     
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    Nope, personally I do not think it's harsh. Hacking should be prohibited at any circumstances. Imagine people breaking into your house and steal your belonging.
     
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    Not defending the kid, but it sounds like it would be more like a stranger knocking on your door and when you open it he says he is your long lost brother and you let him in. Little bit different.
     
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    I was one of the first people to see it. A friend of mine managed to get hold of most celebs. I just thought it was a joke, or some premium number scam. I cant believe the dude was 17
     
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    Right on the money. Great comparison...
     
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    #17
    More like the kid conning you as Zman said, he "Social Engineered" his way in, this was not a brute force hack it was he got his info from an insider, why was the person who gave him info not charged, I mean if a bank employee tells you the combination to the safe....thats accessory to theft. This kid is a highly intelligent person who was able to get sensitive information out of someone he doesn't know....I see an NSA job in his future. ;)
     
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  18. TommyD

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    #18

    they have criminal terms for this:

    Fraud through deception
    Larceny through deception

    Both are against the law, and even 'watered' down, the kid was making terroristic threats, and bomb threats. Reguardless of being a hacker or not, he is a criminal.

    Check this out.

    Man: knocks on door
    HomeOwner: Asks, "Who is it?"
    Man: says, "The Police! We heard some disturbance, can we come in?"
    HomeOwner: unlocks the door to talk to the police officer.
    Man: Pushes in the door, knocks over the man, and runs in the house and back out with the VCR.

    Conclusion, not a criminal just a "property hacker" ;)

    tom :D
     
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    again, wasnt defending, just saying that this

    was not related. ;)
     
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    Some would say he did break in and steal from all of us.

    ****** From Article *********

    Damages from these crimes amounted to about $1 million,

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