A big attack on israel reported to UN

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ziya, Jan 13, 2009.

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    israel has reported to UN , an attack from Golan Hills to isaeli army. i guess israel is just kidding everyone... israel has to obey international laws before reporting something to UN..

    Saddam had been killed because of he killed about 130 kurds in iraq , but israeli politicians killed more than 900 ppls in Gaza..
     
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  2. jamieellis

    jamieellis Active Member

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    Saddam deliberately gassed thousands and thousands of Kurds with chemical weapons. The vast majority of people who have died in this conflict have not been killed deliberately but instead caught in the crossfire. That's a very poor analogy.
     
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  3. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    so israel using chemical weapons too ...

    israel not listening any international organization but reporting attacks to them
     
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    Israeli atrocities are an act of genocide ...... killing Palestinian children, women and civilians for decades.

    This is a mass murder of Palestinians. In fact, this is a holocaust of modern times.
     
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  5. jamieellis

    jamieellis Active Member

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    There's no evidence of that at all. There were some photos a day or two ago which have since been shown not to be chemical weapons. There's no question that lots of civilians are dying, but there are two sides fighting this war here, not just the Israelis.

    During the holocaust as much as 50% of the Jewish population of the WORLD was killed. During Israeli occupation of Palestine and since their withdrawal the Palestinian population has increased. If Israel is conducting genocide they're doing a very piss poor job of it. Palestinian suffering is largely thanks to nations such as Iran and Syria who need them to continue suffering so they can use them for their own propaganda. They are the people arming the extremists and undermining the moderate Palestinian leaders who just want peace.
     
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  6. new

    new Peon

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    You forgot to share the Definition of Moderate Palestinian:

    Moderate Palestinian: A Palestinian who is on offer to be bought by zionists & isreal for $$$ is a Moderate Palestinian, converse of this is a terrorist
     
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    jamieellis Active Member

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    My definition is one who wants to live in peace and doesn't want a war to the bitter end like the extremists do. As far as I'm aware they don't need "Zionist" or Isreali "$$$" to be this.
     
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    The problem for you with statements like that isn't that anyone's going to believe them (they know better), it's that offering a view like that as part of your opinion is clearly going to make everyone dismiss all the rest of your opinion, too. You've blown your own credibility, in short.
     
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    mdvasanth86 Notable Member

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    I agree.. Now your alexa rank has also gone down....
    make sure you don't loose your technorati and google page ranks....:eek::rolleyes:
     
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    Israel is using chemical weapons now, just like they did in Lebanon in 2006. They used white phosphorus, and also depleted uranium (hey israel, thanks for not using the enriched version!)

    And israel is using this to justify everything they do.
     
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    White phosphorus is not a chemical weapon, and militaries are permitted under laws of warfare to use it in artillery shells, bombs and rockets to create smoke screens to hide troop movements as well as bright bursts in the air to illuminate battlefields at night. Israel is not signed up to any conventions regarding it's use in any case. That's according to Human Rights Watch who are a neutral organisation. There is no evidence as yet that Israel is using uraniam - depleated or otherwise - and HRW has been unable to confirm any cases of civilian casualties from the use of white phosphorus. There is enough hysteria from both sides already, lets stick to facts rather than conjecture.

    That's an abstract point, we were comparing the current conflict to the holocaust, not discussing whether or not it justified it. It's a completely unrelated topic, Israel's official reason for going to war is the firing of rockets into Israeli residential areas, the holocaust has nothing to do with it.
     
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    If the attack happens is Israel, it’s a good sign. Israel deserves it.
     
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    Two wrongs don't make a right.
     
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    Israel throw bombs at innocent, then shout: ohh i dont wanna kill innocents!
     
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    That’s what I say. You said there’re two wrongs. That means you agree “israel has reported to UN, an attack from Golan Hills to Israeli army” is also wrong. It’s a stupid excuse of Israel to kill people.
     
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    It's urban warfare, it's impossible that innocent people won't get caught in the crossfire. If Israel was engaging in genocide the death toll would be well into the hundreds of thousands by now, not 900. No doubt some soldiers have taken it upon themselves to commit crimes but that happens in wars. Every army has it fair share of bad apples, these are all young men there are going to be a few who do bad things when they get the opportunity, Israel should ensure it punishes any who have targetted civilians.

    Israel should've stopped once it established a buffer between itself and the terrorists launching rockets, further action serves no real purpose. Clearly they are going for the Hamas leadership.
     
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    Hamas is kidding you! you won't win!
    Lie as you wish if this can comfort you, but no one beleives you.
     
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    #18
    it's true that civilians fall in wars, but in case of the terrorists state of Israel civilians are their preferable target, this is not something new, it is an old policy to terrorize the Palestinians, and others to achieve some goals, Israel dirty history has been long in targeting civilians, and this has been always accompanied with different lies to deny that they do target civilians intentionally.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Hamas admits to targeting civilians - you give them a pass.
    Israel denies targeting civilians - you condemn them.

    It becomes the comedy of the absurd watching you take the Hamas tactics and put it on Israel while giving Hamas an absolute pass. It is clear no matter what Hamas does you will accept it, and no matter what Israel does you will condemn it.
     
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    are you saying that Israel never target civilians, or that Israel always denies targeting civilians but in fact they do?
     
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