A better way for muslims to spend their time

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  1. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #21
    If this is the question to answer, maybe noone answers because it is way too much nonsense. It could be countered with the same question beginning with "why don't YOU go first" in terms of condemnation of the own war profiting system and the leaders who cause massive death. Probably bc noone wants to get into regular pointless we are right, you are wrong arguement.
     
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    #22
    ... or they could be sticking together just like they do in my little town when they feel like beating the hell out of one innocent guy with 15...
     
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    #23
    This forum has changed gears from atheist-christian clashes to
    christian-muslim/israel-palestine clashes ;)
     
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    #24
    I guess I am the lone Apatheist fighter of... oh who cares...
     
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    #25
    rofl jackuul your posts are killing me, esp. the ones in the papercup god thread were hilarious.
     
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    #26
    The better way for muslims to spend their time , if we will not talk about religouse duties, then the better way is educating, studing, to become majority in some of EU countries maybe :) and to make afford and main idea to come to power using elections despide of this kind of attacks (I mean the attacks like this movie. But despide of doesnt mean that to ignore at all, this attacks, baycotting, courting.. there would be many other ways ). Need to learn to defend their rights.

    Norway is calling 100 000 Turks to live and work there, I hope they will be smart enaugh to create some organisation, assosiation to defend their rights
     
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  7. Jackuul

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    #27
    I know a great way for all of these young males who are frustrated to spend their time. It's called playboy. I'm sure they've heard of it.
     
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  8. Codythebest

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    #28
    The democracy is the target. Not America. Not Madrid. It's the democracy. They know democracy will give them rights. Rights that do not exist elsewhere. So,yes, they get to go higher and take over. Belgium has already a muslim minister. First thing: the obligation to put sign above each store in local language AND in arabic. Fortunately, it didn't pass BECAUSE STILL THE MAJORITY OF MINISTERS ARE NOT MUSLIMS. Until when? And then, what's next? Arabic as mandatory second language in school...
    Well, short to say they are taking over slowly so the population doesn't see major changes time to time and get ovet it..

    I guess you're lucky. I saw on TV all these kids, terrified in pain, or even these when the adult "missed" it...In Africa, they cut the girls' clitoris!
    Yeah, all these countries that are still in the middle age..
    This is sad...



    I know, the book is to old to have made the difference in writing at that time...It was a muslim book for muslims...

    When I lived in Belgium, there were a law for Belgians people only. But all foreigners could do it. It was a 1830 law that was never changed. Because at that time, they thought only for Belgians...Same thing. Now they have fix the glitch because it's only a law. But with the Qu'ran, it's not going to change...
     
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    #29
    I am not sure if I understand you very well, you mean there was a glitch in Quran that should have been fixed?

    so instead of saying "You shall not kill" it should be fixed to "You shall not kill Muslims?
     
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    #30
    Oh! So Arabic language is the problem. Well, Muslims come from all over the world, and Arabic does not hold a monopoly. Infact, there are many Coptic Christians and Jews who live in hose regions, and speak Arabic as their mother tongue.

    But Arabic Speakers make on 20% of all the Muslims in the world.


    Oh! :eek::eek::eek:

    Nay... I don't think so... :cool:


    Yeah... I agree... t should not happen. People should abandon the middle ages mentality. What we need is more interaction between different cultures.

    Nope... The Holy Quran is for the whole world, and not for "Muslims only". It is clearly stated in the Holy Quran.

    You should see the movie "The Message" to know under what difficult circumstances Islam began, how we had to defend against relentless attacks, how it grew, and became an empire in a very short time.
     
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    #31
    No, there was a glitch in the laws book in Belgium back in 1830. Laws were reffering to "belgian citizens". Since, some laws still remain that way.
    So, let's take a no sense law example:
    "Article 34: All belgian citizen cannot work sundays. Sundays are for rest."
    So businesses open sundays were all foreigners, doing something that belgian citizen couldn't do legally in their own country while foreigners could.
     
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    #32
    And growing...we agree...
     
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    #33
    excuse my slow understanding, that was a law written by man, they found a glitch, they fixed it, but how can this be compared to Quran, which Muslims believe its the word of GOD.

    in other words, what is the glitch, or glitches, that you think they have should been fixed in Quran?

    Muslims do not force their belief on non-Muslims but they are ordered to spread the message.
     
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    #34
    Don't mind, he's just frustrated seeing all the Morrocans and Arabs coming into Belgium. Just like Americans resent Mexicans. This is normal human behavour.
     
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    #35
    Hehe...I couldn't care less if Morrocans and arabs are invading Belgium...And I like Mexicans, I do speak spanish and have no problem whatsoever with them...
    My concern: a will from muslims people to not integrate themselves in western countries for religeous reasons...
     
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    #36
    Oh So, you're Spanish... :)

    Its not about Muslims, not about religion. It is about cultural differences, between the wast and west.
     
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    #37
    Yes, Spanish. Was originally Belgian but don't like Belgium. I work in USA though...
     
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    #38
    So out of tens 'truth' post about Obama you've made you pull out one and claim that one is truth? How about rest of them? ;)

    And I am still waiting on you to show me reliable source which says that El Mufti is responsible for deaths of 100,000 Jews in Yugoslavia...
    But,as usual when you post your 'truth' posts,you don't provide any reliable sources. Instead of that you simply claim "it's historical fact" and everyone should believe you!
    Well, your 'truth' can only buy people lazy enough to do research about 'facts' you post. For example: El Mufti could hardly be responsible for deaths of 100,000 Jews in Yugoslavia simply because there were no 100,000 Jews in Yugoslavia at start of WWII!
    wikipedia link to number of victims in holocaust
    As everyone can see there was like 43,000 Jews in Yugoslavia and it was estimated that 26,000 of them were annihilated (and that number is horrible but for propaganda purpose doesn't sound too good so the author of propaganda pieces you getting your 'truth' from inflated number too look more horrible).
    The other thing is that most of victims were annihiliated by Croatian Ustašas, catholics, who are more than willing to all annihilations to please Hitler. They didn't need anyone outside to tell them to do that.
    There, here's my truth. Can we now see yours please?
     
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    #39
    I do condemn "war profiting". But answering a question with a question isn't really an answer is it, So even if i supported war profiting it would be irrelevant.

    So nobody has an answer to the very simple, straight forward question i asked in the first post? This is one of those occasions where your silence says far more than your words ever could.
     
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  20. LeoSeo

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    #40
    Heheh riiight.
     
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