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A 4-year-old victim of Islam in India, willit ever stop!?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ckrismoney, May 14, 2008.

  1. #1
    A 4-year-old victim of Islam in India, where 80 innocents in
    Jaipur were added to the list of 80 million other Hindus
    taken out by the Religion of Peace in the last 1000 years.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    When will this end. :mad:

    Muslims say they attack America and U.K. because we help Israel. :(

    They say they attack Israel and Jews because the quran says so. :eek:

    What did the 80 million people in India do? Islam is making it's own enemies. :( No propaganda needed!
     
    Ckrismoney, May 14, 2008 IP
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    You are able to separate those who attack under the false flag of their religion from those who are peaceful of their religion are you not?
     
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    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes. I know all Muslims are not that way because I know several here in Los Angeles.

    But everywhere Islam goes the same thing happens. Innocent people die, including kids.

    So it seems a normal Muslim is very violent for no reason except religious hatred.

    An abnormal Muslim is peaceful and honest.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    IMHO A normal Muslim is peaceful and honest, those that you see killing and bombing are terrorists and criminals. This has nothing to do with religion.

     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    hmmm yet Christians were so peaceful and without hate/killing always?

    There is much more to it than just religion, but like Christians many radicals as well, draw from their religion, so do some Muslims.

    To say only the 'ordinary' are not violent speaks volumes, it's obvious from your posts you are nothing more than a radical of your own religion.

    Radicals from any religion are bad, be it killing people or simply intolerance of words.

    BTW to try to even compare anyone who lives in the US compared to those in a third world country is really off the wall.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I don't know, it is confusing. Is every violent attack in the name of Islam is by people flying a false flag? I am not Muslim, so is that even for me to judge who is being true to Islam.

    The bigger question is what is Islam doing to help isolate and marginalize those in the first group? I fear that there is not a clear enough demarcation between the two groups you identify in your post. The other thing is that I think they are not mutually exclusive. I think that there are many Muslims who feel conflicted and have feelings for both groups.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Is every Christian guilty of molesting little boys when their pastors did, many times of which the congregation stood up for the pastors?

    Is every Christian of the time guilty for the crusades and burning of witches among so many murders committed under the name of god?

    Of course not.
     
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    imad Peon

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    In another thread, you came with 112 million African victims of Islam, and now 80 million Indians, from where do you get these numbers? and when did that happen? are you trying to stick Christianity Missionaries victims to Islam?

    as I know, it was Christianity, which Hindus have a big problem with:

    Hindu extremists suggests that all Christians in Gujarat state should be beheaded.

    and not sure about the numbers, you know, criminals love to hide their crimes, but some historians wrote (about periods of the 1000 years you mentioned):

    The historian Gaspar Correa described what Vasco da Gama did, thus:

    and you seem that you care too much about children from your post, maybe you can help me to condemn this and ask the church to make an apology for their cruel past with Hindu children:

    with all the suffer it caused, they even wanted to celebrate the arrival of Vasco De Gama:
    yuck, from where do they get the nerves?! anyway..

    here is the source, if you are interested in learning some of the past 1000 years history ;)
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    There is one main problem I have with that comparison. It is not hard to find many Imams who preach terrorism and violence as mandated by Islam - and thus the religious justification for their actions.

    The example of molesting priests is different. I am not aware of priests preaching for molestation and justifying it in their position as pastor. While the acts are horrible - I don't think they were justified as being sanctioned acts of the church. That is not a minor distinction - it goes to the core of the issue.

    So, while every religion has its bad apples, this is something different. I would never condemn a religion for the acts of rogue members. But at what point is the religion culpable when many of its leaders do preach a certain way? What I hear as the defense to Imams who preach violence is that they are not true Muslims and that they are wrong. While that may be true, it happens so often that it is not just an isolated imam, but a far bigger problem then some would acknowledge.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    Have you ever been in a Mosque? Met with an Imam? Observed Friday prayers? Spent time at a Madrassa?

    I've done all 4.

    Where do you find your Imams? :rolleyes:
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I have no problems finding wonderful Muslims, great Imams, welcoming Mosques. That is not the point.

    Have you ever heard an Imam preach violence?
    Have you ever heard an Islamic terrorist give a religious justification for his attack?

    I have no problems acknowledging the peaceful aspects of Islam - why do you have such a hard time acknowledging any bad aspects?
     
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    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    First off I'm not racist, I'm half European myself ( German ). You can tell by my avatar.

    But I'm so tired of hearing how Christians have done killing and sooo much evil.

    I've never heard of African, Indian, Chinese, Egyptian, Palestinian, Arab, Jamaican, or any other Christians doing killing and doing evil to innocent people in the name of Christianity.

    The only Christians I have heard of through out history that did wicked evil insane things in the name of Christianity is Europeans They were that way loooong before Christianity. True, everyone was violent in those days. Some were much more insane than others.

    And yet people still blame Christianity for what one race of Christians did.

    It's really annoying.

    Now, moving on to Islam. Every race of people that start turning Muslim start turning violent to innocent people and children of their own race. Every single one.

    Christianity can't stop the character traits of violent people cold turkey.

    But Islam sure seems to be able to start a violent character trait among any people cold turkey.

    Am I the only one that has noticed that?
     
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    I read the thread twice, did not see where you been called racist, maybe because I m half asleep now.

    I think i m 100% asleep now.

    so you decided to attack Muslims by accusing them of killing 112 million in Africa, and 80 million in India, and God knows what else you will come with, at that time, these numbers must been 3/4 the population of the world if not more!

    but of course you heard about African, Indian, Chinese, Egyptian, Palestinian, Arab, Jamaican, Muslims doing killing and doing evil things, you are so picky on what you hear, there are people of all religions, all races, and all nationalists, who do killing and evil things to innocent people.

    was it in this thread? :rolleyes:

    for me I do not blame neither a religion, nor a race.

    do you know every single one?

    happy thanks giving, I m not sure why I m replying you even, I will go to sleep.
     
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    So you're saying that you have met Imams and been inside Mosques, right?

    Except in the media, no. And I've met several Imams.

    I don't know if Islam is good or bad, but the people who kill and encourage killing are bad. Regardless of what faith they are.

    Like folks have assumed I am anti-semitic, apparently they assume I am pro-Islam. This is incorrect. I am anti-war, anti-terror and anti-tyranny. I am pro-freedom and pro-liberty. I am anti-state, and an agnostic. The only thing I dislike more than religious sectarian violence, is government secular violence.
     
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    Isn't it morning in Jordan?
     
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    this is off the topic, but yes it is 7:15 am, i stayed awake all night working on my sites, time for me now to sleep a little, and dream about visiting India, and singing Nari Narin :p

    I dedicate this song to Ckrismoney, hope you will like it, its Indian-Arabic song:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lfcwqb3QFDQ
     
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    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    All that was stupid for you to waste your time saying.

    I didn't say I was called racist. But since I was speaking of European Christians I felt I should give all Europeans respect whether they are Christian or not. Someone may think I'm Euro bashing and I'm not.

    Maybe since you are sleepy you can't understand what I was saying.

    I'll say it so the sleepy people can understand.

    Point one

    Christians haven't killed in the name of GOD, Europeans have.They did the same thing in the name of pagan gods, zeus, venus, jupiter, and more just to prove what god was more powerful. No other race that turned Christian has killed innocent people in the name of Christianity none. Followers of Yahushua (Jesus) try to live like him peaceful, helping the poor, and healing the sick and handicapped in His name.

    Point Two

    The inventor of islam did kill in the name of his god. And everywhere islam goes the followers of muhammed try to live like him, killing innocent people, having slaves, and lying. Islam effects many people of many races in a way that they don't see their people as their people anymore. They kill their own people men women and children for nothing and think they did a good thing and proud of it. Who would be proud of killing kids. ( brainwashed cowards )

    Point Three

    Christianity and the founder of it YAHUSHUA (JESUS) started with divine miracles and healing and uplifting of the spiritual connection to GOD the Father. The first Christians where taught to love everyone and to forgive and they didn't harm a fly. When people turn Christian they see their people as a brother or sister not just a person.

    Summarization
    Where Christianity has gone love unity and help for all have followed. ( Only the old time Europeans didn't do it, and some modern day Euro descendants like kkk.)There were many other Christians in Israel, Africa, Arabia, Egypt, and other parts of the world before Europe, that didn't do anything to anyone except help. They were killed by muhammed and his followers for nothing.

    Where islam goes hatred violence and the slaughter of innocent people follow. Fathers begin to hate daughters, if they marry a non-muslim, brother hates brother, for not choosing islam. Father disowns daughter or kills her for marrying a Christian. This happens to people who just 50 to 100 years ago wouldn't care about such things. The love these people had for family leaves once islam is taught.

    That kind of lack of family and racial loyalty was not their ways until islam was introduced. So, it's not them as a people it's the teaching of islam that made them disloyal to family and race.

    It's a shame so many people ignore or are too scared to say that islam does not spread love but hate for family, friends and race.
     
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    LOL. :D

    Have you ever heard about crusades or Vatican? The history of Christianity in majority is history of killing people in the name of God. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think CKrismoney is ignoring your thoughtful song dedication. lol
    When I get speakers that work...:)

     
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    Ckrismoney Well-Known Member

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    There you go post skimming then typing. I said NO CHRISTIANS HAVE KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY EXCEPT EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS.

    There where Christians in Israel, Africa, Egypt, and other places before European Christians. The other Christians kept to the word spreading peace love and miracles from GOD the Father in the name of YAHUSHUA. No other race killed in the name of Christ, NONE.

    ONLY EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY.

    Why should all other races have to suffer for what one race did. :mad: And then the descendents of that one race act like their people didn't do it Christianity did. Come on give me a break. Fess up or shut up please.

    And read the full post next time before you say something stupid like that again. Have I ever heard about crusades or Vatican? Who hasn't heard about those insane EUROPEANS.
     
    Ckrismoney, May 14, 2008 IP