8 Year Old Boy Suspended For Drawing Crucifix

You could come to school dressed in womens clothing and covered in goats blood, so long as you are not religious in any way. It is Mass. after all.

 

OMG, what about easter? Hopefully, his parents have only told him about the marshmellow peeps.

A 5 year old? I think they should have given him a gold star and an extra cookie.

It made sense for me too, my feeling is that they humiliated this little boy.

 

It's incredible how easy people get fooled... Nobody really reads anything anymore nowadays, but jump to conclusions instantly....

Perhaps some members of DP should be investigated

 

First of MANY well written flames...

Just the fact alone that you consider those who've held the Janitorial profession to be of lower intellect than your own proves your ignorance about social and class hierarchy. I've worked as a Janitor. I've also been in the Gifted Program for Young Adults since the 5th grade, all 'till the end of my High School education. I graduated from University of Phoenix's Associate program with High Honors and am now a degree holder. Does the fact that I was once a janitor make me stupid in your opinion?

How you base the worth of a person or the validity of their statements, ESPECIALLY about their own children due to their current job in life is appalling. You truly are NOT your brother's keeper.

NEXT....

You keep harping on the fact that this child is mentally slow as if it were a second flag as to why he should be suspended. If education (and the places that sponsor it) were not FOR those who need help "learning how to learn" then what indeed are they for? Babysitting YOUR kids when you get older because you're too busy on some God-Awful Atheist Crusade to raise your children yourself? Or perhaps you have this concept that school is a great way to make money from the middle-class American who strives to put his kids through college despite OUTRAGEOUS tuition increases... Point and matter here is that some kid who obviously IS a bit slower draws a picture of something he has seen RECENTLY with his FAMILY in a WARM, LOVING ENVIRONMENT and then either lies or tells the truth about the stick figure being a representation of himself.

If I were the school administrator, I would pay more attention to the fact that the child saw a crucifix and REMEMBERED it than to whether he understood the context of it. Jesus, the individual - these lines are all best drawn in Church where children can learn that JESUS was the one that died on the cross for OUR sins. The confused child DEFINITELY was not deserving of punishment for this.

Regardless of where you stand on the educational institute and its function, it's obvious that your opinions are derived of POOR MORAL CHARACTER MORESO THAN A LACK OF INTELLIGENCE, so at that, I say GET GOD.

LASTLY...

You justify the suspension because you claim that you see the validity in the school looking out for the child's well being. However, in your sig file you have information on Atheism. Now when it comes to arguing ATHEISM, you picked the wrong tango to tangle with, Mr. Trouble.

I've been down that road for so long you can READ MY FOOTPRINTS. Atheism and logic had been my sword and shield for over five years. Christians lay metaphorically slain about the area of my Middle and High School because my arguments had been sound.

When it comes to Atheists who believe in "the good" of something, it really means there's something serving the Atheist in the equation. Your defense of the academic institution proves that you are something of a school fanatic, otherwise you'd just as soon say "Forget this post" and move on.

My point here is that I think your stance is that this child should just as well not BE in school because he's handicapped as be suspended on whatever grounds the block-head administrators see fit.

My end statement here is "Go fly a kite, d00d. You're a jerk and I think that you'll wind up meeting Jesus sooner rather than later."

Jason

PS - pwnd

 

Jason,

I will have to say you didn't pwn stox, he pretty much handles that in every thread he participates, so you can't claim that as a victory. (Since pwn'd is akin to video games it would be like him dropping a grenade on himself and saying you pwn'd him.)

 

If we're getting into the semantics of it, the 3 fold "deke" as I like to call it pretty much owned Stox and the 'pwnd' at the end of the post was kinda "akin" (to use your very good word, 50 kudos points to you on that) to me pressing the down button a lot over top of his mutilated corpse which would kinda be like, in the words of Eric Cartman Suck... My B@||z

 

Aww bless, hymen247 thinks he's good will hunting. I'm sure everyone was impressed with your education as you were picking up dog shit and putting sawdust on vomit. Oi no mark, a bulb needs changing, chop chop. I'm vewy vewy cwever! Of course you are, that's why you done a menial task for next to no money.

The facts remain;
1: the child wasn't punished for drawing a crucifix.
2: nor for being a Christian
3: nor for drawing Jesus

The fact that he said the dead body he drew was himself raised concerns, and rightly so. When someone with learning difficulties, especially with language as this child did, starts drawing pictures of themselves dead it has to be looked in to.

Maybe you could have used your remarkable education to actually read the article. Or you could use you janitor skills to pick up a turd that someone dropped in the urinal. It's up
to you.

 

If you're going strictly off of one statement. You remain to ignore the factors and circumstances that went into that statement.

You're smart most of the time, but I just hope you never become a judge.

Why are class insults necessary?

 

It's the one statment which is important, namely that the child said the dead body was a picture of him. The child drew himself, as a corpse. That needs to be looked in to, no if's no but's, it needs to be addressed. Especially concidering the child has learning difficulties centered around his ability to communicate. If it later turns out that he only said that because he thought he would get in to trouble otherwise then fine, no more needs to be done about it. But the fact that he said the dead body that he drew was a picture of himself needs to be addressed and can not be ignored.

Of course things of importance also include statments which don't exist, namely that this was anything to do with his religion or the fact that he drew something which looked like jesus.

It's nothing to do with class, it's to do with a janitors ability to make a judgment regarding the mental health of a child. In what way do you think a janitor is qualified, given that they are generally, but the virtue of the fact that they do a menial job, fairly poorly educated. Besides hymen247 of course who, if his little "stories" are to be believed, discovered cold fusion and cured cancer between mopping up vomit and changing light bulbs.

 

The fact that he has learning and communication problems only supports what I've been saying.

Are you denying this has nothing to do with religion? Please tell me you DID read the story.

That is just an opinion of yours, that is not based on empirical fact.

 

In today's economy - his father could very well be a Nuclear Physicist who took a janitorial job to make ends meet. My husband is one of the most intelligent people I have ever met - yet he has been out of work for several months. I would jump for joy if he got a job as a janitor.

 

No it doesn't. Unless you think having communication problems means everything he says should be ignored.

I'm denying that he was sent for psychological evaluation for being a christian.

Yeah because janitors are notoriously intellectual.

cmon nate, you are acting like a fucking creationist here. Arguing the trivialities, fudging the issue and asking open ended questions all the while never addressing a single thing i have said. Don't make me spell it out in bullet points and demand an honest answer from you like i have to with those clowns.

you know as well as i do that the schools have strict guidelines detailing what should happen in the event that they suspect a child may have psychological issues, especially if they start drawing pictures of themselves dead. And rightly so. Drawing pictures of yourself dead, especially if you have learning difficulties, can be indicative of a very serious problem.

The school acted not only appropriately but in a way which they are required to by guidelines.

 

Lol.. cute drawing. Kids are just innocent