8 Year Old Boy Suspended For Drawing Crucifix

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    [​IMG] An 8 year old boy, that recently visited the holiday lights display at the National Shrine of Our Lady of La Salette, is asked to draw a christmas picture at school. Apparently, this little boy thinks jesus is christmasy, and he draws a stick picture of jesus on a cross. All hell breaks loose and he's suspended from school that day, and ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation.

    Source: Mass. 2nd-grader sent home for crucifix drawing (Read the entire article)
     
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  2. taminder

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    lol... maybe he did something else and the story was exaggerated. he probably started telling all the other kids that jesus is the real god or something.
     
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    More accurately "8 year old sent for psychological evaluation after drawing a depiction of himself being tortured to death".

    If a child depicts themselves in a drawing as being dead, whatever the circumstances or whoever it resembles, it is cause for concern.. isn't it? Especially if that child is already having special instructions regarding his reading and speech. He obviously has communication problems.

    His dad is also a stand by janitor. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it's not really something done by those with exceptional intellects is it.

    Given the circumstances the schools response was entirely appropriate.
     
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    Give that school some extra funding. School have no rights on being in public schools teaching bullshit corrupting little minds.

    That kinda looks like my aeroplane that I draw when I was a little boy. Maybe he was trying to draw a plane,...with a guy spread eagle on the back of the plane:)
     
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    people are stupid. there is nothing wrong with the kid and everything wrong with people that suspended him . we need to allow practice of any religion or not to believe in any.
    and here we have two members of the forum that promote some of the most violent and intolerant ideas and claim to be against religion. they make it obvious that the religion is not the cause of these ideas
     
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    Hijynx427 Well-Known Member

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    I concur - the school is at fault for taking a representation of the savior of an entire population of believers and perceiving it an abhorrent depiction of torture. This just goes to show that we have gotten so politically correct as a nation that we've undermined the essential Christian values that the United States had been founded upon.

    I remember in Kindergarten when we used to have a Christmas Tree IN the classroom. We'd make green and red construction paper banners and we'd watch "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" on the brand new color TV's while making home-made donuts. Even the Jewish kids enjoyed it because it was FESTIVE. If they wanted to talk about Chanukah, they could, but they preferred eating donuts and partying! It was all fun and games and NEVER would we ostracize anybody because of what they believed. We just chose to have fun.

    Granted, Jesus hanging on a cross is a bit more serious in nature than donuts and movies, but still - his birth, death and resurrection are a foundation for the modern Christian church. To penalize a child for representing Christ through a drawing is despicable and the school should both lose funding and be penalized on a Federal level for obstructing the child's right to religious belief.

    Jason
     
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    ahhh.. phish govt.. its not that childs mistake...
     
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    Obviously that child got the idea Jesus and the crucifix had something to do with Christmas from his parents! They should be investigated and imprisoned!
     
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    Hahahaha, he'll make a good consumer for state-sponsored drugs now.
     
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    Haha. I'd laugh at that if it weren't also true. I had a 40' container arrive into the states last week. US customs chose it at random for intensive search. They emptied everything out of it, then loosely repacked it, causing over $10,000 in damages to its contents before they arrived at their final destination. Of course they will cannot be held liable for the damages or the delays, even though their search found nothing illegal. To make things right, they sent me a $3000 bill for the cost of the search, or they would not have released the container to its final destination.

    At some point, all this crap turns into a means of generating revenue for the government and these are the people they want to put between ourselves and medical care. It should be interesting to see what type of recourse consumers get against the federal government from disputes pertaining to their "service".
     
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    Can you guys not read? it wasn't jesus in the picture, it was the kid, dead. He drew a picture of himself dead on a cross.

    They asked him who he had drawn and he said himself. That's why he was sent for psychological evaluation. Not because he drew jesus, not because hes a christian, not because his school is preventing him from practicing his religion. He was sent because he (a kid who already has severe learning disabilities) drew a picture of himself dead.

    try actually reading the article before attempting for form an opinion.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    Try putting the instance in context of the larger picture.

     
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    Nate they have to base their decisions on what the child says, not what his janitor father assumes he probably meant.

    The child was asked who it was a picture of, he said it was himself, dead. It's appropriate to take that further.

    I'm not saying the kid is insane. What i'm saying is he wasn't in any way in trouble for drawing jesus or being a christian and that when a kid with learning disabilities claims to have drawn a picture of himself dead it has to be looked in to.
     
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    It just seems reasonable to me to look at the situation as a whole rather than go off of strictly one previous statement of an 8 year old boy.

    Also, the fact that he is a janitor is irrelevant. You could also observe that he's black.
     
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    Well since he is handicapped and his dad is just a janitor, they should probably just take out the trash, and not ever have to deal with the problems this incomplete child causes.
     
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    the fact is he wasn't sent for psychological evaluation because he drew jesus or because he is a christian. he was sent for psychological evaluation because he drew a picture of himself dead.

    now i know how difficult it is to have made an ill informed stab in the dark opinion and then be told you have got it wrong, but suck it up and take it like a man.

    The fact is a child with learning difficulties said (at least) that the dead person in the picture was himself. Any responsible teacher can not, under any circumstances, overlook this.

    facts:
    1. He wasn't sent for psychological evaluation because he's a christian
    2. He wasn't sent for psychological evaluation because he drew jesus
    3. He was sent for psychological evaluation because when asked he said the dead guy in the picture was himself.
     
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    Wow, you are ignorant and an asshole.
     
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    You ought to know by now I'm as militant atheist as you are; I have no incentive to backup any religiosity.

    Funny you mention that, because I was starting to feel bad for you, already knowing you had made an ill informed stab in the dark. :p

    And what role did his communication problems play in this? If he has communication problems, is he more likely to say the wrong thing, or be violent and/or suicidal?

    What role could an intentional lie to avoid punishment play in this?

    See, in context, it makes sense for it to be Jesus on the cross, if you read the story.
     
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    If he was sent for psychological evaluation because he said that the picture depicted himself, that is fine. But to suspend him is too stupid to comprehend.

    Schools are very intolerant these days. There is a difference between "zero tolerance" and being "intolerant" - they need to learn that. My friend's 5 yr old grandson was suspended for building a gun out of lego's! His grandfather is a hunter and teaches hunter education so he has been exposed to them from a very young age. AND this is in a state that allows Concealed Carry!
     
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    Someone has to buy the drugs or else the pharmaceutical companies will go out of business!
     
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