Congrats Watari! Did you send him your designs before getting any money? What I do is I Get the money first then send the images, it only makes sense since the design it's already done and we only have to take off the watermarks, all my clients agree on that rule. I know shinan will pay but he sure takes foreeeever!
thanks zepia. i havent sent the files yet. still waiting his payment first. and i have the same rule with you
As a regular CH, I agree with that standard for sure. It's up to me to ask questions about the file format first and if all is correct then payment should be made promptly before the file handover.
AND...... the winner. Just kidding lol. Im sorry everyone. The guys screwed up. They were supposed to pay, I was just supposed to play contest holder. The whole pixelshark idea have been messed up. I haven't used any of your logos I swear to god. You all can sell your work. Sorry watari, you truly deserved the money. I hope your logo gets sold elsewhere, and for a bigger prize. GREAT DAMN WORK EVERYONE! Kudos to watari, CameoAnderson and Phyza. Everyone of you is a winner. I think we all should start our own logo company, What do you guys say? Sorry once again.
after a month you ask me to wait fro the payment and now you only say this is messed up. you are really a asshole and just waste all DP's designers time who have entered this contest. you are one of the best scammers i ever know in DP
I think so one thing we all know is YOU SCAmmed Us ... no matter the other guy screwed up or did'nt pay you but the deal here was between you and all of the designers here specially the winners ... You should have taken the money before making the deal or should have not started the contest and by the way you mentioned that its your own team?? Btw it was a bad experience of taking part in a contest specially for a bit hard work and you got a chance to confess after a month or so?? Well hard luck but no one will want to start a logo company with a scammer @forumposter007 ...He must be your friend bt he was the CH for us who ran away without paying the winners Thanks PHYza
I think we all knew it was going to happen. The guy is a hypocrite, you have all seen him criticizing people for not awarding prizes yet he can't do it himself either. I think morally you need to pay that prize out of your own pocket. Once you award a prize, that is it - it's done. You can't then retract it months down the line because you decided not to use it. You have led several designers down a long and winding road with excuses, reasons and other stuff. I'm not even interested in it anymore, I feel sorry for Watari and Physa because they have all created wonderful work and you have just ripped them off. For the sake of saving your DP reputation, i'd say it's worth dropping the $75 to clear this up anyway! If you claim you don't have it, everyone will know when you win a contest and then will want paying. It's only fair and it's only moral. I know you are young but you can't just run and hide from things in business.
everyone post negative reps so people will avoid dealing with this person. the declared winners should also post negative itraders.
Oh yeah? Do you know what the fuck an iTrader is? I didn't make a deal with anyone of you. Its not like I used your logo and got away. Go google pixelshark, and see whether I have used any of your goddamn logos anywhere on the internet. I didn't rip you off. I know I should be responsible. But trust me, I DID NOT rip off. If you see your logo somewhere on the internet, sue me. None of the winners have sent any source files of their logos, so they are safe.
announcing a winner constitutes a deal/transaction. by that announcement you have committed yourself to paying the winner/s. non-payment of the promised prize is grounds for negative itrader.
You declared a winner then didn't pay, that is reneging on a deal and you can't do that and expect it to be accepted. Would you have been happy to have been awarded a prize for a template you took hours to design, only to be told a couple of months later they didn't want the template any more, so tough luck? Pretty sure you'd have left negative itrader a long time before now!
I know. But try to see from my point of view. I wasn't even going to be a senior staff on the crew, pixelshark they were going to form. I was just a normal designer whom they agreed to pay monthly. So they asked me how they could get a good logo, I said I could do it. But they wanted a couple to choose from, so I said Im on a forum where you can hold contests, and I could help them there. So yeah I said Im gonna open a contest up there, BUT, it is there responsibility to take care of the winner (payment/files exchange etc.). I'll just play contest holder, nothing else. They totally agreed. But later on they were like, they didn't want to form the pixelshark crew, instead - they'll be going for something big. I had to struggle with them for almost a month. But still they wouldn't listen to me. I said I had a good reputation on the forum, that if I didn't pay I'd face a lot a trouble and people would consider me a scammer. But they didn't care. Once again, Im really sorry. I never have scammed anyone on DP. What makes you say that?
I think you know why Wateri said that Shinan. You wrote it yourself that you would face a lot of trouble and people would consider you a scammer. I personally think you should man up and pay Wateri regardless if you used the logo or not. You've wasted a lot of peoples time with this nonsense. If i ran a contest (which I have and paid the winner) I would pay a winner I had chosen regardless if I used the logo or not, which happened. Do 75 logo's at your $5.00 rate, or find some money, pay up and move on.
@shinan That's your problems with those pixelshark team. The main problem is you have a deal with designers here on DP. And you already declared a winner and then after a long wait you suddenly said that you don't want to pay ?! How's that sound ? Yeah...I guess you are a scammer.
Just my 2 pence... I can see the CH point of view, but in my opinion if you awarded a winner u should pay. As a web designer/SEO i host many logo contests on here for my clients and make no money from it, its just nice for websites to have a quality logo to match. Once i started a contest for a jewelery site, i still haven't been paid for it by the client as he is a loser, but i still paid the designer on here, as lets face it you guys do a great job for a reasonable price and deserve to be treated with respect. Don't mean to gang up on the CH, as I can see his point of view on this as i have been in that situation, but I think if you can afford it you should at least pay these guys a little for their wasted time. Hope you get this resolved, and i hope designers don't lose faith in these contests