75% blame Bush's policies for deteriorating economy

A new Times poll which confirms what some of us have been saying for years. It takes a while for the average Joe to catch up to the obvious.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/la-fi-poll26-2008jun26,0,4038095.story

The miserable failures approval rating is the lowest ever recorded at 23%!!!

 

Its not all the federal Government and the Presidents fault the economy is bad. The local government can do more to stimulate the economy than the federal government. Every city, county and state government are always saying they want "more businesses" and they are "trying to help small businesses" but they're not. A person that opens a buiness has to pay zoning, get three types of license and handle the tax collections. The fees add up to pay for all the government employees. The local government don't need to wait for the President to bail them out , they need to start themselves by reducing the employees by 50% and lowering all forms of tax.

 

The local and state governments aren't the ones spending hundreds of billions on 2 stalled wars, and nearly a trillion per year on our foreign empire.

If the Federal government would clean up it's act, the economy could correct quickly.

Hard to blame small town mayors for the Dow losing over 2,000 points in a year, while real inflation is probably @ 12%.

 

When city water came through in front a store I owned. I was required to connect. The impact fee and connection fee was $17,000 the houses located adjacent to the business paid $1,500 to connect. That had nothing to do with the DOW, the President or any politician in Washington. That was the local government suppressing businesses with fees. Those fees get passed on to the consumer which cause an increase in price for goods. That I can blame on a small town mayor.

 

You don't think the feds taking huge chunks of change away from the citizens of a town hurts the town in the long term?

A business can also write the entire $17,000.00 off, and in most cases afford to pay for it, while many home owners would lose their houses had they of had to pay $17,000.00

It's not uncommon for industrial to pay more, but yet again when the feds have already taken the vast majority of funds to the federal level, outside of the township on a tax basis, you really can't blame the town with having very little left to work with.

 

Why should Industrial pay more for fees when they provide the jobs and benefits? They don't write it off they pass it along and then some.

 

Great way to demonize the evil capitalists! Government gets the spoils, but not the blowback or outrage.

 

They use more of the water 'utility' in most cases.

They do write it off, as they write off any and all expenses. They will also pass along the costs of course, but your local home owner can afford 5 cents extra for bread much easier than they can afford $17,000.00

Business also makes money off the utility, the home owner simply gets to live.

Businesses would not be in business very long if all their customers lost their homes or had no money to buy anything now would they?

So many reasons the business should pay more than the home owner, I honestly can not comprehend someone trying to argue otherwise.

 

That's the kind of thinking that drives industry south of the border and over seas.

 

No the type of thinking that does that is the type who allows the federal government to continue to bankrupt us while blaming the local government who has no real power.

 

The federal government and local government are both to blame. The local government receives a free pass in the blame game. Lets tax the businesses at the local level until they relocate or downsize.

 

I'm all for cutting taxes and government spending.

However to wonder why a business, that is going to use more of a utility, a utility that is going to make them money, an expense that they will be able to deduct bringing their actual cost down from the $17,000.00 price tag, to wonder why they pay more than a house hold person is truly out there.

Are you one of the people who support spending millions to bring Walmart into towns at the expense of tax payers?

Business is great, without consumers with buying power however business is meaningless and will dry up faster than a small puddle on a 100 degree day.

 

It’s not out there, that business consumed less than my house does. In our town we pay a monthly fee based on consumption. If you consume more you pay more. That is the same kind of thinking that has the economy in trouble.
The local government is just as much the blame for this sinking ship that is the economy as the federal.

 

I don't see how this could be Bush's fault, its not like Bush made people take loans that they couldn't afford, or that bought 10 homes with no down payments, the value of homes is falling that is deflation, and the effects of deflation are causing the values of the loans to fall and banks have to raise capital reserves. In doing so they have less money to lend and help the economy function, hardly Bush's fault.

 

Not every business will consume less than a house, on a whole they however do, especially if they are actually supplying jobs to the community.

You yet again however failed to respond to any of the other points.

The locals do not have anywhere near the power as the feds especially when the feds take the vast majority of the tax revenue away from the locals.

 

Well Bush did ride the wave of 'more home ownership' under him than ever before. He took credit for it, but he should not take blame?

I however wont even go there, 2 wars is what is going to bankrupt us, not the housing situation.

 

Did I say Bush?

I said the Federal government. Last time I checked, that included the Legislative Branch (House + Senate), the Judicial Branch and the Executive branch.

Not to mention the FED (banking cartel), which is privately owned.

Please relearn the separation of powers so you can make a principled stand for the Republic when martial law comes and this nation plunges into tyranny.

Thank you.

 

I don't know if he rode the wave of home ownership but he did promote it, and there is a difference between home ownership and a condo in Florida being sold 3 or 4 times before its completely built.

As for the spending on the war, couldn't one make the argument that the money the government spends on the wars is actually a benefit to the economy since it leaders to guns and bullets being made in the US by companies that employ US citizens.

 

He used it multiple times in his reelection campaign

Ahh yes because the federal government going broke to pay mercenaries and others in Iraq huge gobs of money helps the economy out over here so well.

Yes some industries have had a bump, very small compared to the overall ill effect of the war.

It's like arguing I blew up a 1000 gallon storage of gas so I could put 5 gallons in my vehicle.

 

The Myth of War Prosperity

Intro

Parable of the broken window

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