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66.102.9.104

Discussion in 'Google' started by webvivre, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. webvivre

    webvivre Peon

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    #41
    Caryl
    Is not the end of the "Event" masked by the normal day to day flux as SERPs naturally change due to new pages, sites coming out of the Sandbox, etc.
    SEMrush
    Personally, I think we will see minor changes due to Jagger in the coming week. I believe we might see some "newer" sites rise towards the top too.
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #42

    Google did its first major shake up a few years ago around this time. I think it boosted their adwords revenue as sites were forced to advertise to get the same holiday traffic.
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #43
    I did not mean to imply that, once this is complete, that there would be no more flux.

    You know as well as I do, that daily flux is usually moving up or down a position or two and the results are spread out across the datacenters.

    To have one Datacenter return a page at #319 and another return your page at position #14 is NOT normal flux.

    Today my results were...
    Position #14 on 23 Datacenters
    Position #15 on 6 Datacenters
    Position #391 on 4 Datacenters

    The first two I consider normal flux the 3rd is NOT.

    Caryl
     
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    webvivre Peon

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    #44
    Caryl
    Perhaps the #391 on 4 datacenters is Jagger 1 (as per Matt Cutts blog?) - i.e. old results?
    29 datacenters are relatively consistent?
    I still believe we are close to end of Jagger 3 and the results are being/will be rolled out to the other DCs.
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #45
    Position #391 on 4 Datacenters

    The four Datacenters are 66.102.9.* & 66.102.11.*
    the "Jagger 3" Datacenters :rolleyes:

    Caryl
     
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    longcall911 Peon

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    #46
    Mixed results for me on the .9 DC. For some KWs I'm slightly better, some slightly worse. What get's me tough is that there does not seem to be any real logic behind why some KWs have improved or slipped. In fact, very similar KWs which resulted in similar ranking for me now seem to be miles apart.

    It looked like G had made some real progress with LSA and was finding relationships between terms that I found quite impressive. But now, the few related terms I track have diverged considerably with jagger.

    /*tom*/
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #47
    The rollout is rolling back. It is now back to only 4 DC's:

    -kr: 66.102.11.99
    -lm: 66.102.9.99
    -kr: 66.102.11.104
    -lm: 66.102.9.104 (duh)
     
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  8. webvivre

    webvivre Peon

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    #48
    Again in the real estate market - my observations.........

    Older sites - not much movement last night
    New sites (less than 6 months! - yes less than 6 months) - have jumped today including some #1 rankings.

    Dear Google God - this will do very nicely - please roll out these! Of course, in reality I still expect minor flux will happen for a few more days.
     
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  9. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #49
    I have seen little change for three days now - BUT - clearly the Update is NOT finished.

    It just seems to be stalled out...

    [​IMG]

    I check frequently throughout the day and have seen no other movement.

    Caryl
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #50
    The "new" results are now showing up on:

    64.233.183.99
    64.233.183.104
    -kr: 66.102.11.99
    -lm: 66.102.9.99
    -kr: 66.102.11.104
    -lm: 66.102.9.104

    Round and 'round she goes -- and where she stops -- nobody knows!
     
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    marques Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Pleeeese propagate, I love the results from those DCs! Google can be such a tease.
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #52
    Clearly, we are all in the same theater -

    BUT we are all seeing a different show... :rolleyes:

    64.233.183.99 - Position #14
    64.233.183.104 - Position #14
    66.102.9.99 - Position #371
    66.102.9.104 - Position #371
    66.102.11.99 - Position #371
    66.102.11.104 - Position #371

    Caryl
     
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    marques Well-Known Member

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    #53
    Interesting, it looks like a win or lose situation. Maybe things will balance out.:confused:
     
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    mcdar Peon

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    #54
    I fully expect that, when all is said and done, the position my page will end up in will be "none of the above".

    Caryl
     
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    aeiouy Peon

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    #55
    Why do people consider it a mess?

    I am not seeing a whole lot of objectivity when describing the results.. Most of the complaining seems to be centered around specific sites.. Which is fine... but doesn't necessarily mean the results are a mess.
     
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    Matts Berserker

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    #56
    Try:
    http reference
    Google 64.233.183.99
    MSN
    Yahoo!

    4 Months ago google was rock solid and returned results much like Yahoo, and MSN was about the same as it is now. Yahoo has relevance now.
     
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    #57
    Yeah that doesn't convince me it is a mess.... Google did not have the same results as Yahoo and MSN 4 months ago... And it doesn't now... Not sure why people would think that is a reasonable goal for all the search engines to be the same.

    Regardless, all I see is people seemingly upset because they have been lowered in the rankings. So things are different it means it is a mess. All it means to me is it is different. I have some sites that got positive results from jjagger, some negative. I don't consider it a mess or wrong. I consider it different. I won't even get into my philosophical argument as to why people they deserve to rank where they are to begin with...

    If you want to talk about the relevancy of a keyword then fine... But you have to do more than cite 1 spam result out of 100 to make an argument. Let us talk about the keyword where the top 20 results are all spam sites and that nobody legitimate is ranked... That is the thing of a mess and bad serps.

    Having one site replaced with another is not a mess.
     
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    Matts Berserker

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    #58
    Didn't you see that there were only 3 results for http reference then google switchs to html reference? The first result is a dictionary [reference.com], the 2nd is the relevent result, and #3 was ok. This isn't my keyword, I sell food, so it's just an example of things being messy.

    how about Searching Google for: IBM

    Look at #5? I love it!
     
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    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    #59
    What's the big deal really. Alot people refer to the International Brotherhood of Magicians as IBM also. Why isn't it relevant?
     
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    #60
    I think there cannot possibly be enough words, and links to the International Brotherhood of Magicians to overpower IBMs shear volume of content and back links and rank them in the top 10.
     
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