57 percent Germans Want to Abandon Nato Mission in Afganistan

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bogart, Feb 3, 2008.

  1. Huo_Yang

    Huo_Yang Peon

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    #21
    damn, stop living in the past, dewd.

    9/11 was for sure an inside job. And even if it wasn't, there already died way more civilians in the iraq war than civilians died on 9/11. (so what's right or wrong?)

    p.s. You think you can speak to dead men, you're crazy :D
     
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  2. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #22
    How can you believe anything out there at all considering certain elements
    of our government helped to bring down a potential democracy in iran in the 1950's and the american people dont find out about it until 20 to 30 years later? I dont know about you, but once im lied to once im usually very skeptical. I was brought up in elementary school and middle school
    on the notion that our constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written by man, but for the last 40 years they have hijacked this constitution of ours. I dont really trust the iranian government because they are doing in lebanon what we have been doing in iraq for the last 15 years.

    As i have said many times the new iranian student movement is totally against their president. IF moderation wins out a year from now then it will be a great victory for teh iranian people, but lets not forget who helped to put the iranian in the situation in which they have a leader like this, but just please approach all of this war mongering media propaganda with a pinch of skepticism.


     
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  3. Hon Daddy Dad

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    #23
    Under the democratic rule of the West's ally President Hamid Karzai, Sayed Pervez Kambaksh has been sentenced to death for reading "women's rights" information online.

    This war seems like a complete waste of time to me. Both New Zealand and Australian troops are also in Afghanistan. What kind of democracy are these soldiers fighting for?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...dared-to-read-about-womens-rights-775972.html
     
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  4. soniqhost.com

    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    #24
    Your kidding right, they don't leave their military compounds. What's the point of having a military in Afghanistan if it stays in one secured spot.
     
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  5. guerilla

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    #25
    ^^ Interventionist.
     
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  6. soniqhost.com

    soniqhost.com Notable Member

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    #26
    Me or the germany army?
     
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  7. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #27
    You.

    Soniqhost = "Get out of that base and do something! Anything! No peace, endless war! Fight! Die! Kill!"
     
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  8. nextebizguy

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    #28
    So it is hate to call attention to the fact that the Germans enjoy the freedoms of participating in NATO yet want none of the responsibilities?

    What kind of society are we creating when criticism is called hate speech? If dissent and criticism is deemed "hate speech", the very freedoms we enjoy will soon be lost. A slippery slope indeed.
     
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  9. Mr_2

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    #29
    well they help in reconstruction projects.
    And financial help to Afghan goverment is very useful too.
     
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  10. PHPGator

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    #30
    I don't like calling Europeans "euro trash" in fact, I somewhat take offense to it. Not because I have family or any connection to it, but England has probably been our best friend in the whole world. Heck, they don't even necessarily believe in this war, but because our country does their willing to take their soldiers to war with us. I just want to point out that England isn't being overlooked and thanks to all of you who live there. I not only want to help England in any of their future problems, I expect our government to stand by them if they ever need it.

    As far as France and Germany (they are both in the same boat)... I agree. They continuously take a step back, want to play devils advocate, they aren't willing to take a stance on really anything unless it is somethign that opposses what the US is doing. But you know what, they will need our help again sometime in the future. I hope that we have learned our lesson and realize that if anything, Germany and France are mere aquaintances, not true friends. Am I saying that we need to go to war with them? No, but simply take a hands off approach in whatever situation they might deal with in the future. They have been of no assistance for quite sometime now, if anything, they have been a nuisance. Thats how I feel anyway.
     
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  11. guerilla

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    #31
    Yeah, France was certainly no friend during the American Revolution... :rolleyes:
     
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  12. bogart

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    #32
    The US paid that back 100x over fighting on French soil in two world wars.
     
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