57 percent Germans Want to Abandon Nato Mission in Afganistan

57% of Germans favor a unilateral pullout in Afganistan. The German freeloaders have prospered for 50 years under Nato protection. However, they fail to understand that Nato is a two way street.

The Germans have 3,500 troops deployed in Afganistan and refuse to deploy them into combat against the Taliban.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,472696,00.html

Britain wants some of its NATO allies to start pulling their weight more in Afghanistan, International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander said Sunday, ahead of crunch talks on the issue. Germany and France are among the nations failing to send forces to the areas where fighting is the most intense.

Canada has warned it could withdraw its 2,500 troops if NATO fails to send reinforcements to the south.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2008020...80203142912;_ylt=AiLN4Tl4wU7F1QiwITJtfznOVooA

 

I guess a lot of countries are fed up of fighting BS "wars" for Israel and the USA mate. Certainly looks that way to me.

 

The War on Terrorism is a global struggle against violent extremism. Women under the Taliban rule in Afghanistan could not leave their homes without a related male escort and were required to wear a burqa at all times in public.

The US is sending in 3,200 more troops and is financing an increase of 10,000 soldiers for the Afghan Army.

 

Well German army doing a good job.

People in Germany should distinguish the war in iraq from Afghanistan.

 

why was the US training terrorists to take over Cuba's government? How about the contras? But wait, let me guess, if it's the US doing it then it's OK

 

The Cuban Brigade 2506 were not terrorists and landed at the Bahia de Cochinos (Bay of Pigs) to liberate Cuba from the communists.

Do you want a Nicolae Ceausescu back in Romania.

 

Hatred for Muslims and now Germans. Are we seeing a connection here bogart? Would your own religious backgournd have anything to do with all this hate your bring to Digital Point?

 

what were they then?

no, thanks

 

It has nothing to do with religion or hate. I don't hate the Germans just the eurotrash. The issue with terrorists and extremists has nothing to do with muslims that are trying to make a living.

 

Soilders fighting for cuba libre

 

Taliban is a joke. It isn't any threat to US at all. By the way, those terrorists you are fighting... were created with big help of CIA. Just to let you know.

 

And what is the difference between soldiers fighting for cuba and "terrorists" fighting for their country?

Sorry for doublepost.

 

Bogart, I think we should take all of this into consideration the next time the Germans want the US to do most of the heavy lifting in resolving conflicts in Bosnia, Kosovo, etc.

We didn't have a dog in those conflicts, but we went in there at the request of the Euro-pussy politicians. The Germans were the ones that pushed us to jump in under the guise of a NATO operation. We were probably on the wrong side of those conflicts anyways.

I was in Italy just before the Kosovo conflict and one of the Italians I met with thought it was the responsibility of the USA to deal with the issue. I told him that we had no interest in Kosovo--either politically or economically--and the guy almost went ballistic. When it comes down to it, many people just want someone else to deal with problems and they won't do anything if it inconveniences them.

I think you need to check your facts. The CIA assisted the mujahidin when they were fighting the Russians. The Taliban didn't exist back then. The Taliban was created with the help of Pakistan's ISI.

 

Tell me about it. The eurotrash spent the cold war protesting against Nato and complaining about Ronald Reagan being a war monger and lunatic.

The Germans have forgotten real quick President saying Ronald Reagan "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" at the Berlin Wall in 1987

Tell that to all the Americans that died on 9/11

 

And now women have to wear the veil in free Iraq, where they did not before.

Care to explain that mission of righteousness?

Can you define "victory" in the war on terror, because I have no idea what the victory conditions are.

 

There is no victory in the war on terror, it is a never-ending war, but a necessary one to prevent atrocities.

We will most likely get a pacifist president soon, who wont have the guts to stop a.) a terrorist threat, or b.) threat from a country. And trust me, everyone will regret that we didn't have someone with balls as the CIC.

 

My friend, you really need to read George Orwell's 1984, and understand what never ending war against a faceless enemy is really all about. I'll give you a hint. Hitler used a similar paradigm by stirring up paranoia and fear about socialists, and then staging a fire at the Reichstag to scare the people into giving him total control.

Of course, you probably didn't know that, because today, everyone is a foreign affairs expert, with no background in history. FoxNews tells you it's a war on Terror, just like the Iranians have nukes, or Iraq being connected with 9/11, and you just go along.

We won't have a pacifist President, because the military contractors, war profiteers and banks run America. Your job is to STFU, pay your taxes, watch TV, and buy the products they are selling you.

 

My friend, I have not only read 1984 but also I believe I know a good amount of history. No, I am not ignorant and I do not believe in most of the bogus FoxNews puts out, or that Iraq is connected to 9/11.
Although, I do believe Iranians are creating nukes, especially as unstable as their president is. And I would rather be proactive against that, rather than sitting back until it's too late.

Hitler was also In an extremely different situation than current america, and he exploited it well.

Eh, you may be right, or just overly cynical. Eitherway America is the best country to live in, so I'm not complaining. Sure, my taxes may be high, but I do have one of the highest standerds of living in the world.

"Buy they products they are selling you", That is how the world goes round my friend, capitalism is why we have been advancing so quickly in the 20th-21st century. How many countries successfully run a command economy? Even russia is switching over.

I see you are a ron paul supporter, I like the man, but sadly all of his ideas will not work, and to impliment them it would require pretty much destroying america as we know it :/ He's a good guy though.

 

Ahmadinejad will probably be voted out of office in less than a year.

So what you are telling me, is that despite the fact that the UN cannot find proof of nuclear weapons development, and that the Ayatollah has issued a fatwa against nuclear proliferation, and that the government's own NIE says the Iranians abandoned their weapons program almost 5 years ago, you still think we have a right to invade or bomb that country?

Have you learned nothing from the bogus fear mongering about Iraq?

Now I am beginning to doubt that you have read. The methodology, the rhetoric and the fanaticism are nearly identical.

People don't want to hear this, but it's true. America is only the best country in the world as long as we steal resources with our military, export our paper money and asian economies are willing to prop up our consumption with cheap labor. Americans aren't anywhere near as productive as what they consume. Your current "high standard of living" has been purchased at the expense of future generations, or as Von Mises put it, "You're burning the furniture to heat the house".

Capitalism comes from the idea of building capital. You build capital in free markets by saving, not consuming. That is what the Chinese are doing. That is NOT what we are doing. We have no savings.

Destroy America? By following the Constitution? Sometimes I don't think it's worth fighting for when boobs say silly things like that. Thomas Paine is spinning in his grave.

 

We have our own version here in the States, his name is George W. Bush and he is a miserable failure and a liar.