$400 sent over paypal

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by tguillea, Jun 1, 2009.

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    My business partner sent a total of $450 to a scammer before finding the wits to realize that all the payments were to the same email address :mad:... not to mention it is a "verified NON-us member" (Asian)

    I've set up a claim in PayPal but is there really anything I can do to try to recover the money that paid? Paragraph 17 (i think?) of our terms of service say that if the terms are broken we reserve the right to claim paid and unpaid earnings. Ordinarily, I wouldn't take back someone's earnings but it was set up this way for this exact situation.

    Is there any way to get the money back?
     
    tguillea, Jun 1, 2009 IP
  2. campolar

    campolar Peon

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    Since the account is Unverified, you have a chance of getting it back, and that account being limited till its verified...
     
    campolar, Jun 2, 2009 IP
  3. Wulfster

    Wulfster Peon

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    It also depends on how long it's been. If the receiver has already claimed and transferred the money, it's as good as gone.

    I've been bit by someone offering work here on DP. You just never know...
     
    Wulfster, Jun 2, 2009 IP
  4. tguillea

    tguillea Active Member

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    The money was sent about 2 days before I opened the dispute.

    Just today I escalated to a claim after almost a week of him not answering. The scammer has continued to create multiple accounts on the site as well and he is essentially uncatchable until I see the offers he has done in combination with the DNS / IP (usually "fishy" looking such as CLIENT.WEB_HOST_NAME.COM for DNS)

    Also, his account is a foreign account (non-US) but IS verified.
     
    tguillea, Jun 3, 2009 IP
  5. Armz

    Armz Peon

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    paypal is really really bad with non ebay disputes...i personally have lost over $250+ because of their horrid support but in my opinon it is always better to call them up and speak with someone than to just handle a situation like this over the computer you also may be able to file a police report because that it is stealing and that is a large sum of money
     
    Armz, Jun 3, 2009 IP
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  6. tguillea

    tguillea Active Member

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    Good advice, thanks!
     
    tguillea, Jun 3, 2009 IP
  7. egytopp

    egytopp Peon

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    #7
    that is too bad actions :(
     
    egytopp, Jun 7, 2009 IP
  8. MikeB67

    MikeB67 Member

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    You shouldn't of waited so long, I've once been scammed by youngspiders here on Dp for several hundred and paypal basically told me it was to late, he withdrew the money and they sent it to his bank. His bank being pakistan would not withhold any money unlike a US bank would be able to do.

    IMO Your probably fucked buddy :(
     
    MikeB67, Jun 10, 2009 IP
  9. woja

    woja Well-Known Member

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    Ummm.... I'm pretty sure Paypal don't work with Pakistani banks.
    I recently did a deal with someone who insisted on using LR since he said he lives in Pakistan and Paypal doesn't deal with them.
     
    woja, Jun 14, 2009 IP
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    Dotrebates Peon

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    If the funds came out of your bank account or from a credit card you can dispute it with them. Otherwise it's all in PayPal's hands, probably no luck then.
     
    Dotrebates, Jun 14, 2009 IP
  11. Hazen3

    Hazen3 Member

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    Yeah if you used a credit card you're good. Do a Chargeback
     
    Hazen3, Jun 14, 2009 IP
  12. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    Good try Mike, but, PayPal does not provide a service for those that are in Pakistan. Good try, like I said, but, try to do your lies somewhere else.
     
    hostlonestar, Jun 15, 2009 IP
  13. thxflash

    thxflash Active Member

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    With Paypal its really depends on flipping a coin. They are either on your side or they aren't.
     
    thxflash, Jun 15, 2009 IP
  14. anniemae

    anniemae Guest

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    You will most likely get the money back. Since its unverified account.
     
    anniemae, Jun 18, 2009 IP
  15. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    #15
    Apparently reading isn't your strong point is it? Look at the 2nd line again.

    "verified NON-us member" (Asian)
     
    hostlonestar, Jun 18, 2009 IP
  16. sneternal

    sneternal Peon

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    #16
    Don't let anybody lead you the wrong way.. Read mine before anyones!
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    I've been with PayPal for years, and use them constantly, been scammed a while. From what I've known, I've been in your situation, I open a dispute, and wait for a while. Sometimes 20 days, I forgotten, but there is a time limit for the seller (or scammer) to reply back and do something about it. You need proof, and at this point you are innocent because you have proof he is a scammer. So EVEN if he DID tranfer money to his bank OR use the money, PayPal will take serious actions to take it back.

    How I know that? Well, lets say that my friend use to scam. Sure he scammed, spend all the money he could on it. But even when he has a negative balance from dispute, he either has to pay for that shit or paypal will ..
    1) Get the debt collectors on his @$$ or Charge his bank/cc/debitcard
    2) Open up disputes on the places he has spent on (cannot be closed either).

    For the first part, PayPal will pay you back you lost, after charging the guy (if the 1st method). Or get your money refunded back from endless disputes reversing payments. And trust me, they're reverse payments through a bunch of accounts regardless where he/she has spent it on, and if the place he spent it on sent the money somewhere else.

    But that's just my story, so when I get scammed, I always get my money back, regardless. I think its only because my account is a little older than most people, and that its fully verifed. Bank , Credit Card, SSN added. Again, it could be different for others.

    I mean, if your legit and you are verified, PayPal will usually always be on your side. And thats why I love PayPal. I have been scammed a couple times just like your situation, but I have never loss in profit after waiting patiently.

    PayPal FTW.

    Best Regards,
    Sneternal

    If you have any questions about PayPal , PM me. I can help. I use PayPal everyday.
     
    sneternal, Jun 18, 2009 IP
  17. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    now, who negative repped me without signing?
    Don't be a coward.
     
    hostlonestar, Jun 18, 2009 IP
  18. Mischa C

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    It's funny about the non-verified mix up seeing as you clearly state that the member was verified! Best of luck with getting this sorted as it seems many folks are getting scammed of late in this way. It's so unfortubate that PayPal do take sucha long time to communicate with you, but in my experiences with PayPal they've always been really helpful and have never let me don when there's a dispute :)
     
    Mischa C, Jun 19, 2009 IP
  19. jhbalaji

    jhbalaji Well-Known Member

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    Hope there is a chance to claim mate...
     
    jhbalaji, Jun 19, 2009 IP
  20. FiredNille

    FiredNille Banned

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    yea im 100% verified on paypal and they have always been good to me
     
    FiredNille, Jun 19, 2009 IP