4+ years, and still can't get in Dmoz with a pretty damn good site too...

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by azn_romeo_4u, May 2, 2010.

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    I submit my site probably 1 time a year. Last time I submitted my site was today, and before that was probably 1 year ago. I don't get an e-mail or a reply from anyone. Not sure if anyone is even looking at my site.

    I look at the category that I'm submitting in, and it has sites that haven't been updated in 3+ years, yet my site that has been updating for 5+ years straight since I started it, still can't get it. Has more content than probably all the sites listed combined. No malware, or spyware on my site as well as a clean design and child friendly.

    I guess I can see why some webmasters, get angry at these editors. It's kinda like a slap in the face when you see sites that haven't been updated, have barely any content and you have no clue or not if these sites have paid to get in. We all read posts about editors selling listings. It's probably still hapenning right now. How many legit sites have been rejected because of this?

    Meh...I'll probably be submitting in another year. What worries me is that there's a butt load of people who submit to be eiditors to get their sites editted. And those editors put in their site but none of their competitor sites. You all read the blog posts about how it's easier to be an editor and submitting your site like that instead. There's nothing stopping those type of editors from doing so.

    However I'm pretty sure, there's a lot of good editors as well.
     
    azn_romeo_4u, May 2, 2010 IP
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    #2
    If you read the stiucky at the top you will see that it can take from a few days to few years, yes more than 4 years, to get a review for a possible listing.
    By re-submitting your site you are overstamping the date stamp, it will now look as though you submitted yesterday when editors look, that can be detrimental. We believe it has only been around for a couple of days.
    Also don't believe that we spend our spare time to offer a listing service to web site owners, your site may or may not have been seen already, but if not then it waits for an editor to want to work that area and use the suggestions pool as the resource, it is one amongst many, to do the listing.
    If you would like to suggest on the 'report abuse' button that you have any evidence of editors performing in the way you suggest it will be thoroughly investigated.
    No, you do not hear from Dmoz because you have suggested a site, we are not there to communicate with site owners, but to build categories for surfers. Any weight we give to sites we list is an incidental accident as far as w are concerned.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Its not a Queue, and suggestions (according to some editors) are CERTAINLY NEVER looked at in order so what does that matter? How on earth could something be detrimental that has NOTHING to do with the submission process? What is the difference between a site submitted 4 years ago & one submitted yesterday? Is one treated different then the other by editors? If that's the case, then could it really be a queue? could the editor that claims that sites CERTAINLY can not be looked at in order be wrong?
     
    Qryztufre, May 2, 2010 IP
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    If you are unhappy with the service being provided to you, then ask for a refund.
    And you complain about not getting listed! How do you think any directory (not just DMOZ) should treat those who can not follow the guidelines that they agree to when they submit? Why have you submitted more than once for after agreeing that you wouldn't?
     
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    Webmasters that think DMOZ links are worth the 2 minutes it takes to submit their sites and "get angry at these editors" are still operating under 1998 SEO guidelines - they're 12 years behind the times. Links used to be gold; now they hardly count anymore, because Google has the power to judge your site code, semantics, and not just individual pages, but whole site as a unit. I suspect you need to update your own SEO notions if you are still chasing a DMOZ link well into 2010.

    No one uses DMOZ anymore; DMOZ pages haven't floated up in Google SERPs for years; they only add 6-9K sites a month, which locks them in a pattern of being exponentially behind the times; Google finds fresh content on its own and requires no assistance from the cobweb lords of the ODP.

    If you site doesn't rank well, you need to fix your site. DMOZ doesn't have the power to give you traffic or ranking.
     
    helleborine, May 3, 2010 IP
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    I don't care if anyone disagrees with me, but I think for the most part the editors are lining their pockets approving sites they are paid to approve. I'm not saying all the editors are dirty, but I'm sure a lot of them are.

    Over the years, I haven't had any websites listed I have submitted. I'm sure if I posted an offer of $100 or more to get each of my sites listed on certain websites I've come across, my sites would have been listed in no time.

    Anyway, I don't think DMOZ carries that much weight anymore as far as improving your search rank. I have plenty of sites that are not DMOZ listed that have really good SERP's. So it is obviously not as important as most people think it is.
     
    snewtonge, May 4, 2010 IP
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    The trouble is that there are some editors out there willing to take the time and hunt down webmasters trying to pay. When they get caught, the sites are banned, and along with that banned site, any site they find owned by the webmaster is banned too. Are you willing to take that chance? If you are then check out Scriptlance, that has several sites that seemingly have been listed as there are completed transactions with positive feedback! ... but again, I warn of the risk!
     
    Qryztufre, May 4, 2010 IP
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    Exactly one of the sites I was referring to.

    It is proof that some (not all) DMOZ editors are in fact dirty.
     
    snewtonge, May 4, 2010 IP
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Editors do not consider a completed transaction with positive feedback proof...
     
    Qryztufre, May 4, 2010 IP
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    snewtonge Peon

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    I know if I paid someone to get my site listed and they didn't, I sure wouldn't be leaving positive feedback.

    Either way, there are legit editors and there are ones that are taking payments on the "down low". So to say DMOZ listings are all legit and approved based on quality is laughable.
     
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    And you don't believe that we operate undercover to say and do anything to track down any bad editors and any unscrupulous site owners who try to use bribes as a way in.
    If anyone is that desperate it seems a silly risk to try and if you don't believe either that on many sites which offer feedback, puppets are set up to do just that. Added to which just see how many scammers are constantly trying to part a fool and their money on the internet. Some people would believe anything and readily hand over plenty of dosh.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Yes, I am sure that ALL of them are editors using puppet accounts and that there is not one single editor out there that has actually taken a bribe, that must be why there are those editors out there trying to trick the general public *rolls eyes* That I guess would be yet another example of breaking the rules to find rule breakers...

    Sorry, but a 3rd party site with completed transactions with positive feedback seems to hold a bit more water then someone posting anonymously claiming the contrary... but then who am I to judge what is and is not proof. I'm sure that 'on your word' is FAR better then an actual example...
     
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    People that pay money for links, if they even exist, richly deserve to be ripped off - for failing to do their research and keeping up with the times.

    A DMOZ link is worth exactly ZERO amount of the currency of your choice.

    Thus I don't believe the talk that money is being exchanged for DMOZ links. Not to mention that I never got any offers when I was listing websites for the ODP eons ago, mere years after the links' value dropped to nothing.
     
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    DMOZ not worth it, only submit once.
     
    promaga, May 10, 2010 IP
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    That does not make a lot of sense. "DMOZ is not worth it", but you still submit to it?
     
    Agent000, May 10, 2010 IP
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    It's like saying "Crack is addictive... only smoke 1 rock". :)
     
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    You make my day! I'm from that crowd that are still waiting for DMOZ. It cost me nothing to wait but it will cost a fortune to get stuck waiting. I decided that it's not important and move forward with the SEO. Thanks for make me more comfortable with my decision.
     
    bluehat09, May 15, 2010 IP
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    i wouldnt care if i wasnt listed in the DMOZ , even though it adds some link juice :D
     
    Chri, May 15, 2010 IP
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    Stopped caring about DMoZ when I outranked the sites it was pushing... four years ago. It's only becoming less relevant as time goes on.
     
    Vekseid, May 15, 2010 IP