4,698 soldiers deserted this year, compared to 3,301 last year.

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    Army desertion rate highest since 1980.

    WASHINGTON - Soldiers strained by six years at war are deserting their posts at the highest rate since 1980, with the number of Army deserters this year showing an 80 percent increase since the United States invaded Iraq in 2003. ...............

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071116/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/military_deserters


    I don't blame them. Bush didn't go to Nam, his twins are here, as are the kids of all senators except maybe one or a few who are in Iraq, and who knows if they go on dangerous missions.
     
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    That's very interesting! I didn't realize there was anywhere near that number. I'd have thought maybe a couple hundred. That's alarming!
     
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    I wondering what are the reasons behind deserting. I mean if they want to get out of the army so bad couldn't they claim to be gay and get discharged?
     
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    Not a lot of people want to own up to having a gay discharge. ;)
     
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    ROTFL!!!:D:D:D
     
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    you can't just say you are gay to get out of the military...you have to have a history of proof...or get caught...


    though you could get a discharge for lying about it if you were persistant enough...
     
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    Many of the desrters don't believe the war in Iraq is just. That's why they refuse to risk their lives for somebody elses war.
    As you can see cons don't show up to say a word or two against the deserters .... wich spells one thing. "The war is a failure. BIG FAILURE."
     
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    American desertion rate is actually quite low. Nine in every 1,000 soldiers deserted in fiscal year 2007 wich is less than one percent. In the 1970's the desetion rate was between 1 to 3% and during Vietnam the desertion rate was 5%
     
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    But a dessertion discharge looks much better.

    I have a friend who served in the military during the entry into Iraq and he says most people don't care if you're gay in the military any more.
     
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    A dessertion discharge looks good because it shows that soldiers are able to think, not only to go with any stupid order.
     
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    That’s one way to look at it, another way is that their self centered who think the world revolves around them and their able to do what they want. They’re not responsible and they can’t fulfill their promises and commitments are another way to look at a desertion discharge
     
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    There is no such thing as a desertion discharge...if a military member deserts they stay a military member until they are brought back home to face a military court martial...whether than be 1 or 40 years.

    And once they do come back, the discharge won't be their worry (they won't need to find another job) because they'll be going to jail for a long time (though the death penalty is still on the federal books as the maximum penalty for desertion during a time or war)

    Most don't care until they are in certain situations. Like me...I have no problem with gays in general, a lot of my close friends are gay...

    plus, they are actually planning on lifting the ban on gays in the armed forces (i'm opposed to that)...though i haven't heard anything more on that since i heard the first rumor a few months ago.


    In my book there is no moral reason to desert. I don't care if you are a chicken shit or not...if you sign up to defend the US (or any other country) then you do what your told, and if you don't like it you just suck it up and get out when your contract is up...
     
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    That is also true yes.
    And another way again to look at it is that if you sign up for 6 years, after 5 years you are probably a lot smarter (since you learn by living).
     
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