4/4/06 PR update

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  1. rubeina

    rubeina Invisible Staff Affiliate Manager

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    #421
    :eek: Ooops :eek:

    Anybody want a link on my blog :D I've PR5 Hehe
     
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  2. aspidov

    aspidov Well-Known Member

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    #422
    From this day on, the link prices will be determined not by PR but by the site's backlink count.
     
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  3. dfsweb

    dfsweb Active Member

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    #423
    Maybe you're right BUT the Backlink count as shown by which SE??? We all know that Google's count hasn't been accurate for yonks. I find AllTheWeb.com the most accurate, but if this is the case then everybody will stick to reporting BL counts from the SEs that favour them the most.

    This is a good time for Alexa to make a comeback! :D
     
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  4. Jim_Westergren

    Jim_Westergren Notable Member

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    #424
    Wild theory:

    The RK values was usually 1-2 values higher than the TBPR values. Now Google cancelled them and you cannot see it but I recorded it.

    This is the first TBPR update since the BigDaddy export and it is already unusual as it did not take 3 months this time, but much shorter.

    It is seems like only new PR0 sites got an update.

    Perhaps now with the BigDaddy it is the RK values that is being exported and Google started with the new PR 0 sites as a first phase and later rest of the sites will also get an update?
     
    Jim_Westergren, Apr 7, 2006 IP
  5. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #425
    I hope so, otherwise all my hard work and time are just wasted!! ;) :mad:
     
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  6. longcall911

    longcall911 Peon

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    #426
    While that is possible, I don't know why G would do that. For the past couple of years G has been de-emphasizing PR in order to reduce artificial linking. Exporting RK would fly in the face of that strategy and give rise to a whole new round of link selling.

    I don't have a better explanation though, and I do agree that this is likely just round 1.

    /tom/
     
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  7. DarrenC

    DarrenC Peon

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    #427
    I'm seeing a PR change on www.travel-rants.com but not on the homepage, but internal pages.

    ... and it's not a new site.
     
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    pratik Notable Member

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    #428
    guess wht this update was cool.. i got PR 4.. for my site .. from none...
     
    pratik, Apr 7, 2006 IP
  9. bobmutch

    bobmutch Peon

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    #429
    aspidov:

    >>>From this day on, the link prices will be determined not by PR but by the site's backlink count.

    I think the Ibound Link Quality (ILQ) is a better way to rate the value of link from a site that the quanity of the links the page has.

    Thats the way I rated the directories on my new list:
    www.seocompany.ca/directory/top-web-directories.html

    Here is a write up on how the ILQ points system works.
    www.abakus-internet-marketing.de
     
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  10. roseplant

    roseplant Peon

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    #430
    Sorry to burst your bubble Jim but this has already been suggested:

    But now I'm beginning to think there are some more factors to this. I have a domain that has one single important backlink to it, no SEO work has been done to it, is about 2 months old and has been in fact showing a blank page for the past 2 weeks - it got a PR4. Its RK value was never 4 - it never had one in fact.
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #431
    The premise of your hypothesis is incorrect: It is not only new PR0 sites which got an update.
     
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  12. Seiya

    Seiya Peon

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    #432
    Agreed my Pr6 site went down to PR5 :eek:
     
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  13. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    #433
    This is quite strange. I have added a new page to one of my websites the other day. Its PR4 already. It seems like PR is live now...
     
    mightyb, Apr 7, 2006 IP
  14. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    #434

    I think you have it backwards, seems like PR is dead now;)
     
    Roman, Apr 7, 2006 IP
  15. lpstong

    lpstong Notable Member

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    #435
    I am not sure about PR is dead. But I think what Google wants with their PR rating is to drum up hits and submissions to their site for advertising. I don't know how many of you read but they are buying out AOL. I read this somewhere in The Los Angeles Times about a week or so ago. AOL has been selling some of their affiliate companies and I believe trying to seperate themselves from Time Warner. From what I understood from the article that by the year 2008, that the agreement is that AOL will be sold off as a spinoff of Google.

    So with the drumming up of Advertising and hype about PR can be full blown out of proportion at this time due to the association with AOL.

    Now I may have misunderstood the article so I dug up the article at the archives at the LA Times site. Here are some links to the Google/AOL talks

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-google30mar30,1,128730.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
     
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  16. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #436
    Stop and think about this because it makes no sense at all: Google's ability to sell advertising depends on the quality and relevance of their search results. If quality drops, people turn to one of their competitors. If fewer people use Google search, the value to advertisers descreases and Google makes less money. Therefore, in order for Google to continue to make the big bucks, they must continually try to improve the quality of their search results and thereby remain ahead of their competitors. Google is NOT, repeat NOT, trying to reduce the quality of their organic search results in order to drum up more paid advertising dollars.

    This is old news. What you read recently was simply an update on how the purchase negotiations are proceeding. And they are not "buying out" AOL - they are simply purchasing a share (5% if memory serves).

    No. It's the other way 'round. Time-Warner is trying to separate its name from AOL.

    :confused:

    But AOL owns DMOZ. That's the real culprit: I blame DMOZ for the whole thing. :D
     
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  17. Deano

    Deano Sail away with me.

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    #437
    LOL I can understand anybody trying to do that!

    I Can imagine the phone call
    Time warner. I'd like to cancel our relationship with you
    AOL. Phone on hold
    Time Warner. Can I speak to a real person
    AOL. (plays some Mozart.. that should get rid of them)
    Time Warner. still on Hold
    AOL. plays elevator music
    Time Warner gets through
    AOL sorry you have just this second gone into your new month of your billing contract, can you call back next month.
     
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  18. lpstong

    lpstong Notable Member

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    #438
    Ok thanks for the clarification. Just why the hype about PR if it has real no meaning to ones site. This is my confusion. What would they want to offer a service if it gives no meaning or help with ones site.

    I question the motive behind the PR idea. I have also stumbled a few sites that apparently give Google PR. One is the download bar that Google provides which I have that gives a PR to each site I am viewing. Than here is another site with PR http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php . And one more site I found in one of the threads here at DP that also gives you PR readings. http://livepr.raketforskning.com . I can't remember which thread though. Rofl and last but not least one more site for PR Predictions http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_prediction

    No wonder there is some confusion of what is going on. Besides is there a thread or site that gives the 10 things that Google ranks your site by. I think one is backlinks another is site traffic and how many users are on your site.

    Go ahead and correct me. I need a little clafication on the process of how Google works on the PR system and how they rate sites. I have read a few threads and still a little lost.
     
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  19. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    #439
    My friend has a third degree black belt in Judo. It took him 25+ years to get it. It means something.

    I have an advanced rating in paragliding. You can achieve this in under a year. It means nothing. In fact many new "advanced" pilots get killed because they fly in advanced conditions and can't handle them.

    To me PR is like my paragliding rating, meaningless.
     
    Roman, Apr 7, 2006 IP
  20. Mong

    Mong ↓↘→ horsePower

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    #440

    This is not true (at least for me) because website in my sig.Is newly registered domain and fresh website <50 days old.But it has still page rank ZERO. :)
     
    Mong, Apr 7, 2006 IP