If this update stays as it is now, the value of PR just became a lot less. If a PR 5-6 is so easy to get, it has about the same value as a PR 1-2 before all this happened.
I ended up with the following: PR4, PR5, PR5, PR5, PR6 (Most of these were PageRanked though, the ones in bold gained a bit of PR)
i think they just bell curved the "grading system" there were what...like 3 pr9s before? even google was a pr8 or something.
Well, most sites that were not PR0 did not change. So, alivedirectory and even blazemp did not change at all.
That's precisely what I was saying. Even PR7 has no meaning. One of my sites should have been PR5, but it is PR7 with this latest update.
I could really care less if any of my sites got a PR8, not that they are in any danger of doing so, but it really doesn't matter what TBPR you get... ignore it and focus on traffic.
Well, I think (speculating, of course) that this is the final nail in the coffin to discourage SEOs from .... well, doing anything! Google has been taking information away from webmasters on a regular basis for a while now and that's the one thing that has kept Google on top and ahead of the rest of the SEs. In short, the less (accurate) info we have the better it is for Google. They first start by taking away the "link:" info. You get results but they are not accurate. Then we were told that the toolbar PR is not the same as the "real " PR. Webmasters still used toolbar PR as an indication of sorts while judging a website's value. Now, they are fkng that up too!! I guess, we'll just have to switch to Alexa rankings ..... which aren't accurate anyway ...... I am really angry now!
Now that's really not true. PR isn't the be-all and end-all that some people think it is (and really it never was) but if anything a higher PR becomes more difficult to achieve as the number of pages in the index increases. It never was, actually - it was always a graphical representation of PR and it's only ever been as accurate as the last update and not a day longer. Nothing has really changed there except the frequency of the updates. I think that's a good thing - it helps to emphasize that PR is not what matters most. They shouldn't be doing that to begin with - it's never been a good estimate of how good a site is, whether you're talking about from an information/importance point of view or an income potential point of view.
Yes, I agree, and I know that PR is not important at all for the reasons some people think (or not much anyway). That is, what matters for me on my main income sites is traffic. I could really care less about PR for them except for a few exceptions. A couple of them being that higher PR sites are sorted at the top by default of some of the directory scripts, and being on page one is a benefit. Also, if you do any link sales or directory, PR is a factor there for how successful it will be. Etc...
Thanks; although I am not happy with getting it this way since it is not real and since the others did not get what is appropriate for them (they did not change).
My site for adhocpost.com web site went from pr3 to pr4 yesterday. And the forums are a 3. My other site enterwork.net went from a 0 to a pr4 in less than a month. Woot
I think most people who are saying that the PR given to them is too high are saying this for really new sites that they haven't promoted much. Someone mentioned here that one of his sites only has 3 BLs from a PR2 and PR1 or something. Yet, the site's a PR5 now. I have gone through many PR updated and I always know what all of my sites should be (roughly). If I am expecting a site to be PR4, I won't be surprised if it's PR3 or PR5 but if it gets a PR7 I'll know something's not right. I think it's possible that Google just kinda randomised the whole toolbar PR so that it's another thing that webmasters can not trust. This might discourage webmasters from buying links based on PR as you wouldn't trust the toolbar (not that you could anyway), which is exactly what Google wants.
This thread will be a PR 7 at this rate. I did great on new sites. Nothing much on old sites. But I bet it don't stick.
That's not enough. You also have to factor in quality of links: where those links are coming from, the PR of the pages they're on, number of other outgoing links on the page, the likelihood that Google has devalued or discounted those links (e.g., paid links, link schemes such as LinkVault, the Coop), etc.
True, there are a lot of factors, but sometimes you can just feel it. For example, do you think the following page should really be a PR6? I dont. www. pchardwarehelp.com/Monitor.php The homepage of that site was not updated and remains a PR4, but the newer subpages one click away from the homepage received PR6s. The only links they have are from within the site and are barely a month old.