Thats what I meant. You can buy a placement in Yahoo directory for $300 but Dmoz is free submission.. alot of people get rejected, it depends on the quality of your site and the particular reviewer, partly a matter of luck, I would say.
luck is definetely a part of getting listed in DMOZ...I can't get one and I have seen people with 20 listings!!
I don't even know how to submit it, it won't even let me. In all the categories I've tried it just says, "We're not taking them in this category" and I've tried about 20 categories.
What do you mean by expired domains? I know a lot of people will buy expired domains and then resell them. So if someone buys an expired domain then sells it a couple weeks later will that work, or does it have to be a domain that has never expired? Please elaborate on your point on expired domains not working.
Once you buy a domain if you let the time expire without renewing it or transferring ownership to someone else then it will "expire" in other words your original stake on the domain is no longer in force and someone else can buy it. The value in that market is not from the PR and rarely is in the traffic unless the site is a common phrase that people would use and routinely type it into a browser like SantaClause.com or pets.com. Although they may try and sell the fact that the old site had PR or Traffic. The only reason I look at expired domains is for additional branding for projects that I work on. The domain name in itself will have the value. After a domain expires the SE's go through a process of deindexing the web site and invalidating the incoming links. In my experience from that point on the other web site will not pass you any PR. The only value of the incoming link is the potential incoming traffic, which in my experience is so minimal that it is rarely worth it. That's why you would want to look for a site that has not been updated in a long time and has a decent PR to buy. Even though the traffic will be nonexistent the value of the PR will be worth it, if that's what you are looking for.
So those domains that expire and have a pagerank of say 6, those people with the expire domain programs buy them and then sell them on eBay or something. So, if I were to buy one of those domains, at the next PR update it would go back down to 0 or 1? Only if the domain has not expired since the last PR update will it transfer the pagerank in a 301 redirect, is that correct?
It may not go down on the next update if the process that the SE's go through devaluing the link for PR is not complete. Just as some site are indexed daily and some monthly, quarterly or when ever the SE spider visits. As the bots go through the process the web site will continue to loss PR That's it I also just did another post on my blog about it http://www.micaljohnson.com/blog/seo/30/using-a-301-redirect-in-seo/