301 redirect. help me

Discussion in 'Google' started by tipoo, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. #1
    i need to know that 301 redirect best way...

    olddomain.com/page1.htm to newdomain.com/page1.htm
    olddomain.com/page2.htm to newdomoan.com/page2.htm

    or

    simple olddomain.com to newdomain.com

    whats your experience?

    both sites are some with same urls.
     
    tipoo, Aug 28, 2010 IP
  2. Victoria B

    Victoria B Peon

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  3. tipoo

    tipoo Peon

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    what the suggested link for?


    i need to know if there is any problem if i redirect every single page to every new same content single page?
     
    tipoo, Aug 29, 2010 IP
  4. Victoria B

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    There is no problem if you don't care about being penalized by Google.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. social-media

    social-media Member

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    #5
    ROFLMAO Google does NOT "penalize" a 301. Cutts just recently confirmed what people have known forever, that a 301 causes you to lose a small amount of link juice/PageRank. But in no way is it a "penalty".

    If you know anything about the PageRank calculation/formula from The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Web Search Engine or Google's PageRank patents, you'd know that Google has a damping factor in the formula to causes PageRank to decay slightly with each link.

    If a page as a PR of X and there are 10 outbound links on the page, approximate X/10 PR points are passed out on each of the links. I say approximately because the damping factor actually reduces that slightly. The damping factor reduces the amount of PR passed out by about 10-15% so the actual amount of PR passed out on each link becomes 0.9(X/10) or 0.85(X/10).

    If you think about it, a 301 redirect turns an old page (regardless of how many outbound links it used to have) into a page with only 1 outbound link... pointing to the target URL of the 301 redirect. Since the damping factor causes the total amount of PR passed out from a page to be dimished by approx. 10-15% depending on the value of the damping factor at any given time, you can expect to lose 10-15% of the PR the old page had as a result of redirecting. In otherwords, the amount of PR passed out to the target URL for the 301 redirect becomes 0.9(X/1) to 0.85(X/1).

    So yes.. there is some reduction of PR as a result of a 301 redirect. But calling it a penalty is ludicrous. Penalties prevent your URL from ever showing up on page 1 of the SERPs until you correct whatever Google Webmaster Guideline violation caused you to be penalized. 301 redirects do not cause a penalty nor do they prevent you from ranking on page 1 or even position 1. Google even suggests that anytime you rename a URL that you put a 301 redirect in place. I hardly doubt they would suggest that you do anything that could result in a penalty.
     
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  6. AirForce1

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    Hi, If you have not changed the path to pages, only a domain level 301 redirection would be OK enough since this would decrease the impacts on your server load to the utmost extent. all the best,
     
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  7. Victoria B

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    Mmmmm I read the same article you almost duplicate here, it's better explained there though, but thanks for the info :)

    Cheers!
     
    Victoria B, Aug 29, 2010 IP
  8. onetrickaday

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    301 is a must when u want to permanently move pr
     
    onetrickaday, Aug 30, 2010 IP
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    first you define actual website URL in Webmaster tool after solve 301 problem
     
    myindiahub, Aug 30, 2010 IP
  10. rohnsmith

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    I do not think that google will penalize you.. just take care of the guide line specified by Google.
     
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  11. blings

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    Here's the code you can use with .htaccess file on the same directory where the domains point to.

    redirect 301 / http://www.you.com/

    For additional information regarding this redirection or for more info about the using .htaccess with 301, here's a guide page that I've been using every time I wanna refresh my knowledge about 301 and its coding syntax - http://www.tamingthebeast.net/articles3/spiders-301-redirect.htm

    On the page, you can refer directly to "301 redirect for file names with spaces" section for redirecting filenames and "Redirecting entire sites with 301" for know-how on redirecting an entire site.

    Cheers! =)
     
    blings, Aug 31, 2010 IP
  12. bhavatmaj

    bhavatmaj Well-Known Member

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    #12
    olddomain.com/page1.htm to newdomain.com/page1.htm
    olddomain.com/page2.htm to newdomoan.com/page2.htm
    this the better method in the eyes of google
     
    bhavatmaj, Aug 31, 2010 IP
  13. tipoo

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    same thing i am looking for...
     
    tipoo, Sep 3, 2010 IP
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    #14
    I also want to know this plz elaborate
     
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  15. tipoo

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    i have done with 301 permanent redirect and setup change of address in webmaster tools as google suggested.

    i need to know that if i use adsese on NEW domain with redirected traffic from old BANNED domain. google shoooot me again on my NEW domain?
     
    tipoo, Sep 12, 2010 IP
  16. rohnsmith

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    hi
    thanks for starting this posts . I gained my knowledge about page redirection
     
    rohnsmith, Sep 12, 2010 IP
  17. tipoo

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    i still wondering that to add adsense on my new domain models hq. when should i add the ads to my new site?
     
    tipoo, Sep 17, 2010 IP
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    I have once try a 301 redirection using php from a blog page to an affiliate site but the page would not load anything until I change it to html redirect and it works.Can this affect ranking of my the main blog at all.
     
    mayorlan, Sep 17, 2010 IP