301 does not maintain PR

I had a relatively well ranked site and decided to Move domains to get more geo-local traffic (i.e. from .com > .au). Had read everywhere that a 301 permanent redirect meant that G would maintain or 'forward' the PR etc to the new domain name. This is not the case. I am definitely in the sandbox or being somehow filtered by G.

MSN and Yahoo are as good as ever and G is nowhere (not banned as I can fnd the domain). When I search without G filters, I am #1 for nearly all my important searches.... F*@#!

 

It will take a while for the 301 to take effect. You may have to wait for the next PR update to see the PR change. Good luck

 

Thanks, how long between PR updates? I changed everything over in mid August...

 

not sure, they really aren't on a posted schedule, maybe the next few months...

 

Normally after the second update your back where you were previously.

 

Yea.. 301 takes a bit to update and transfer. That's why some people use a 302 method then work their way to a 301. it seems to produce less drastic results and maintain your rankings as if the site still existed at the old url..

 

Rumors are that there's a PR update planned in October.

Good luck

 

thx, fingers crossed!

 

MSN and Yahoo are as good as ever and G is nowhere (not banned as I can fnd the domain). When I search without G filters, I am #1 for nearly all my important searches.... [/quote]

just interested what exactly do you mean by 'search without G filters' ?

 

This isn't a simple or "standard" 301 redirect, though. You are trying to redirect from a .com to a .com.au address in an efforft to have the site rank in a regional Google.

That's basically a new indexing situation, not the same as just changing to a different domain name in the same index.

 

lol, I read the title and felt that I was living a lie my whole life!!

Anyway, I bet that the next time that Google indexes your website, it will probably make the changes. Check the cached version and wait around 2-3 months from the cached date for Google to index your website.

 

is it just me or didn't anyone else notice this thread is 4 months old?

 

Whats with all the old revived threads... we running out of stuff to talk about already? I feel like DP is a fairly recent GF that I'm getting to that awkward stage where we've done all the small talk we can do

Back to topic.... my question is: which site are you talking about? Are you saying the new site is in the sand box? If so what about the old one? Is it still getting traffic??

You'll need to be more specific. I mean it makes sense doesn't it? Why would Google send you good traffic to BOTH domains. It needs to take time to drop the older one and add your new one.

If your old domain is getting traffic doesn't that mean it's getting to your new site through the redirect? So whats the problem?

 

I assume that someone (Sly) discovered the thread via a search for 301 or something. I hadn't read the particular thread before and it seemed to me that the previous posters had missed something significant in the first post in the thread - hence my reply.

But really, 4 months is nothing. People resurrect intro and chat threads a year old.

*shrug*

Who cares, really?

 

I was surprised to come across my old thread too. And guess what? Still wondering about the geo-local issue as a whole.

I run an Australian travel site, I obviously want to be well referenced in Oz, but also, would like to perform as well as possible everywhere around the world (that I am naturally intent on controlling).

I'm launching a new site, do I:
have a .com.au hosted in Oz
have a .com hosted in Oz
Get a life and stop trying to control the uncontrollable?

Will come back in say, early 2007, to see how the conversation is proceeding

 

In most cases, I would say that hosting in the region would be sufficient. I have read a few posts from Australians who claim it is different in Australia - I have no way of verifying that myself and if true I don't understand why it would be different there from the rest of the world but you might want to check it out with other Australian webmasters who have experimented with .com sites in the Australian Google.

 

Straight from the horses mouth

From: [mailto:help@google.com]
> Sent: 06 May 2004 01:49
> To: Umbrella-Consultancy
> Subject: Re: [#9471289] Google UK Inclusion
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> Thank you for your note. Searches that are restricted to a
> country domain
> should only return sites that are physically hosted in that country,
> regardless of the extension. If you would like your site or
> others in the
> UK to be returned in a 'UK sites only' search, we recommend
> that you have
> the site hosted in that country. This should make it more
> likely that your
> site will return in a search for pages from that country.
>
> If your site is currently hosted in the correct country and
> you feel that
> Google is incorrectly detecting your site's location, please visit
> http://services.google.com/georeport/ to report the error.
> In your report,
> please use the 'Comments' section to let us know the IP
> address of your
> website, as well as where the website is physically located.
>
> We hope this response is helpful to you.
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team
------------------------------------------------

Now you can get around it by parking domains and having .au sites link to the au domain, but the above is a clear indication

 

The problem with that response, OWG, is that it conflicts

1. with what Google says elsewhere, specifically here: http://www.google.com/intl/en/webmasters/faq.html#country

and

2. with my own experience at least for google.ca, where two sites I'm associated with both rank in the top 1-5 for google.ca depending on the search terms - one is a .ca domain hosted in Arizona, the other is a .com domain hosted in Canada - whois info for both shows Canadian origins.

 

Yep, it is a case of right hand left hand. Matt Cutts told Ian Macanerin something totally different to both the above LOL.

 

So the real answer is probably something like "Googlebot decides by comparing the thingamajig with the whatsit"...