300k results in google, competitive?

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    I am looking to create a site and rank it for a keyword phrase with just over 300k results in google, is this considered competitive or not?


    And how much money would you expect id have to spend to get it on the first page of google for my desired phrase?
     
    pr0xy122, Jul 2, 2008 IP
  2. thecatalyst

    thecatalyst Active Member

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    It depend on how popular the phases you are going to use. you could have a ton of results but with none of them on the first page it wont matter at all.
     
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    Medium Competition Level I suppose, Depends how good you are at marketing your site.

    It's when it gets into the millions that it gets really hard so I'd say go for it.
     
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  4. KingPin08

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    I would hardly class 300K results in Google as competitive.

    That said, what and who are your competitors?

    KP
     
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    I agree with "moderately competitive". But not too tough if you work at it.
     
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  6. pr0xy122

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    ok, and if you guys were to promote this 'moderately competitive' niche how much would you need to spend, estimating roughly?
     
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    try to list in niche directories if at all possible, guest post on other niche blogs or sites, do a press release.
     
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    thats the thing I mean what does the first page look like that is really more important, do all ten have say a million links and PR5 or are they thin easily beaten out sites?
     
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  9. Robert T

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    The metric of competitiveness you are using would be a good measure of maybe the length of the sandbox period for a new domain rather than answering the question you are asking.

    You need to analyze the #1, #2, & #3 position to see what it will specifically take to be in their ball park. The overall competitiveness of the niche has nothing to do with the #1 ranking site.

    For instance, some niche's with similar metrics may have a top ranking domain that spent thousands of dollars in advertising to get there, could have 50,000 indexed pages, and be a 12 year old domain, while another could be a 1 1/2 year old domain with a 30 page website and 350 links with no dollars involved....
     
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  10. pr0xy122

    pr0xy122 Peon

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    well nearly all of the sites on the first page are ecommerce stores and according to http://www.backlinkwatch.com

    most of the sites have under 1000 backlinks, while one has 6000.

    Thanks.
     
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    300k is not competitive at all usually, but it really depends on how long your competition has been around.
     
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    yes i agree with u...
     
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    Just give us this 300k keyword and then maybe someone will help you. looking only at results from google is not a good approach
     
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    300k is easy.
     
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    It's not so much the numbers you should look at, but the other people competing for a particular keyword. How many backlinks have they got, how established are their websites? If the competition is only 300k, but the top ten results are filled with wikipedia, bbc and cnn results then best of luck!

    To see what I mean, our company "accidently" (as in, we weren't optimizing for it) got one of our clients to the top of the search engines for the keyphrase video answers. This keyphrase has 111,000,000 results! Since no one is competing for this keyphrase (it's pretty useless) our clients site ranked number one - even though we weren't optimizing for it.

    Site: proitexpert.com

    Google Ranking: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=video+answers&btnG=Google+Search
     
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    Do you actually know how to conduct proper competitive research? I mean I'm not going to get into it but put quotes around "Video Answers" and it only shows 51,300 results. Even a monkey could rank for that. Is Video Answers even a keyword?

    Anyways, back to the real question.

    It's very simple, make sure you have your title element correctly done, your META description (for CTR purposes) and make sure you have quality content within the page your optimising for that keyword.

    Then of course the back link process.

    How long would it take? I'd be very suprised if it took like than 4 months. As for price it depends on how much the SEO wants to rip you off by. Something like that should be a one off payment of $1k or less.

    KP
     
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    I said that it wasn't intentional, and we weren't optimizing for it. How did you go from that to "you can't conduct competitive research" - I think you mis-read my post. I was showing that looking at the number of results is not the way to do competitive research - we agree to the same thing :)
     
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    exactly. how many times must this be answered. it doesnt matter at all how many pages are in the SERP. it matters how many companies are actively pursuing that phrase, and how good they are.

    if you have only 30 sweetfunnies all seriously chasing one phrase, how quickly do you think you could get top 5?

    or 100 million pages with no-one going after the phrase?

    which would be easier?
     
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    result count matter only if it low then 100 )
     
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    Doesnt matter if the number of results is 100 or 10000000000.. the competition really depends upon the keyword's popularity... and not the number of results
     
    N€0, Jul 6, 2008 IP