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Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Juned, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. aba-jobs

    aba-jobs Peon

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    #21
    Nice post Dan,
    But the if his client don't want any ranking on long tails keywords?
    Than What, I know you are a senior.
    But i won't suggest him to do these kind of contract.
     
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  2. Dan Schulz

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    #22
    As I've already said. If the client wants 300 competitive keywords to rank well in 3 months, then the thread starter has no choice but to put his foot down and educate his client on the cold hard reality that it cannot be done - and that anyone else who says otherwise will just be walking off with their money like thieves in the night.
     
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  3. chaitanya.seo

    chaitanya.seo Banned

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    #23
    Exactly Dan, 100 % marks to you.
     
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  4. graphseo

    graphseo Banned

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    #24
    It depends upon keyword competitiveness. If you are going with high traffic keywords and using with white hat seo then it is not possible.
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #25
    300 keyphrases lol this is a joke ...
     
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  6. Wardy

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    #26
    They could possibly easily rank you top for obscure keywords of no relevance that will bring you no traffic or no useful traffic. You need clarification the keywords they will be targetting!
     
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  7. Dan Schulz

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    #27
    Since people apparently are not listening, I've already shown that it can indeed be done, and without having useless keyword optimization techniques bringing in no traffic.
     
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  8. astup1didiot

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    #28
    Hey, I guess people only want websites that search engines like and not the actual people who will be visiting these sites. Some people just want to hear what they want to hear. Atleast I concur you know what your talking about, who cares about the masses anyways. ;)
     
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    #29
    Sorry, I posted in the wrong thread.

    Oops.
     
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  10. yugo

    yugo Well-Known Member

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    #30
    yeah... I think so, it's good way to your site. But I think the better way is 5-10 % for keyword density.
     
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  11. Dan Schulz

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    #31
    Keyword density has nothing to do with this thread, and in some parts of the Web page, a 5% keyword density can be detrimental to your optimization efforts anyway.
     
    Dan Schulz, Apr 2, 2008 IP
  12. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #32
    As Dan will agree with me; Keyword Density is useless and not something anyone should worry about SEO wise. Natural content will naturally contain the proper keywords and\or keyword phrases, there is no cause to injection them.

    Believe different? I recommend you review the follow article: Keyword Density of Non-Sense
     
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  13. Dan Schulz

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    #33
    You're damn right I'll agree with you on that, ssandecki. :)
     
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  14. astup1didiot

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    #34
    I've been considering running an actual experiment to debunk the whole keyword density myth as I like to call it. I want to develop a website with about 10 pages and attempt to rank it #1 for a search term that doesn't appear at all on any of the web pages. The sites content would been super relevant and directly related to the search term, but the actual search term would never appear anywhere on the site itself. If you feel like actually helping out maybe you can motivate me to spend some time on it :D
     
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    #35
    First I thought it was top10, after reading again its top position. First of all give your client a quote of $100K, let see how serious he is. Backout if the domain is less than year old. Otherwise its doable. Requires a lot of work but possible, still depends on the keyword competition.
     
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  16. Dan Schulz

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    #36
    It could be done ssandecki, but the experiment would be flawed from the start. Probably the best way to do it would be to have a bunch of links pointing back to the site with the targeted keywords being in the links' anchor text. In this case though you'd just be shifting the keywords to external sources, not your site's pages.

    The age of the domain name won't matter here. And if you're going to quote someone $100,000 for this, you better damn well justify the value that the client will be getting and properly detail and lay out what you're going to be doing, because if you can't, then "I'm sorry gentlemen, but this meeting is over" (as the old saying goes).
     
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  17. astup1didiot

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    If you said $100,000 I think the only thing you would hear next is a dial tone. ;)
     
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    #38
    SEO is a hell lot of work and doing it for 300 keywords at the same time is crazy
     
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    #39
    it is not possible it take some time

    but i think your client don't have seo knowledge if having may be he is asking for black hat tricks which is very bad
     
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  20. Dan Schulz

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    #40
    Uh rajj, you might want to read the last post on the first page. I proved there it is indeed possible if you target the right types of keywords - and it can be done legitimately as well.
     
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