3 Sites on same IP - hundreds of pages indexed homepages now dropped.

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by Freebies, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hello,

    I have three sites sharing 1 IP address, all three sites have been in the top ten for their respective primary keyphrase for the past several months. However, I noticed a few days ago that one of them which had been the #2 result for its phrase fell out of the results altogether, I thought since I still had about 200 other pages indexed and some of them were still ranking it was just a fluke, until today when I checked the two others on the same IP and noticed they too had their homepage dropped but also still had hundreds of pages indexed.

    My question is, what might be at issue here?

    Thanks in advance,
    Freebies
     
    Freebies, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  2. MakeThatDollar

    MakeThatDollar Notable Member

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    #2
    Were all three sites linking to each other?
     
    MakeThatDollar, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  3. pneulameiro

    pneulameiro Peon

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    #3
    Link to each other is a bad thing?
     
    pneulameiro, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  4. MakeThatDollar

    MakeThatDollar Notable Member

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    #4
    If they are all on the same server it could be considered bad to Google. I forget the terminology on it but I remember reading about it.
     
    MakeThatDollar, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  5. eSpenders.com

    eSpenders.com Peon

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    #5
    yea I've heard that b4
    and I also was told the ip doesn't matter its about the server block or cells I cant remember the exact term at the moment
     
    eSpenders.com, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  6. Red_Virus

    Red_Virus Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Hosting sites on the same IP is not a problem, and I think that Matt Cutts confirmed the same.
    I have many shared hosting accounts, that have hundreds of sites on that server on same IP's but never had a problem !
     
    Red_Virus, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  7. Freebies

    Freebies Peon

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    #7
    I don't have any problems with Google, it's just Yahoo.

    I do link the sites together, as I do with most of my websites, however, these are the only sites that I operate which share the same hosting account and same IP.

    What would be the reason for all three to have just their homepage missing from Yahoos SERPs, while almost all other pages for these sites remain and are very well positioned on Yahoos pages?

    Should I move these site's to another location and assign them unique IPs?



    Thanks a bunch,
    Freebies
     
    Freebies, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  8. MakeThatDollar

    MakeThatDollar Notable Member

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    I didn't mean that hosting them on the same IP is an issue. I just meant that linking them all together may be bad.
     
    MakeThatDollar, Jun 12, 2008 IP
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    It is fine as long as you keep the sites under 10..

    I usually have 8-9 sites each on each IP have never had a problem.. And I inter link them moderately..

    Oh, I have never considered optimising for yahoo.. consciously
     
    Blogspotter, Jun 12, 2008 IP
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    redz Well-Known Member

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    Were any of the site's adult or anything that yahoo would not want in the results? search engines usually know which ip's the sites are on and if two are good and one would be in the adult industry they would probably discredit the other two in serps.
     
    redz, Jun 12, 2008 IP
  11. Freebies

    Freebies Peon

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    #11
    One is a wallpaper site which still ranks #1 in Google for it's most competitive term and had been #1 in Yahoo before the homepage was removed on Monday evening, another is a tech blog that's Dmoz listed and has internal pages ranking great and the third is a family friendly work from home based site that's been about for almost 3 years with historically terrific SERPs for the very most competitive keyphrases for it's category.

    To me it just doesn't make much sense that all three would have their homepage removed from Yahoos Index all at the same time. I did notice that I had an extensive .htaccess using mod_rewrite on the primary domain, could this have caused the issue?


    Thanks,
    Freebies
     
    Freebies, Jun 13, 2008 IP
  12. Freebies

    Freebies Peon

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    #12
    Just to update this.



    Earlier today I moved the most important of my sites to a new server, along with a unique IP and low and behold it is now back in the top 5 for the most competitive keyphrase.

    Please note: I also made a few changes to it by completely removing it's mod_rewrites in the .htacess and I also removed a few redirected error pages which were 400, 401, 403, 404 and 500.

    This is probably going to sound like a stupid question but could the items I removed have caused it's re-inclusion or could the change in IP have effected it?


    Thanks again for all the assistance!
     
    Freebies, Jun 13, 2008 IP
  13. nickr

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    #13
    I have a dozen websites which all had unique IP addresses. Due to downtime, I moved all my sites to a different host which lumped them all together on the same IP.

    I have two sites that compete for the same keywords and are in the same niche, although they are very different websites. When they were on different IPs, they both ranked well. Within 48 hours of the move to a new host, the weaker of the two sites dropped hundreds of places in Google and hasn't yet recovered. The stronger site looks to have been chosen by Google in favor of the other.

    I have just nofollow'ed all the crosslinks I had and will wait for Google to update its index. If that doesn't work, I will try moving one of the two sites to another host, just as Freebies did. Anyway, I just wanted to confirm that crosslinking two related sites on the same IP incurs a Google penalty.
     
    nickr, Jun 20, 2008 IP
  14. fort lauderdale

    fort lauderdale Peon

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    #14
    quote from above:
    "I just wanted to confirm that crosslinking two related sites on the same IP incurs a Google penalty."

    if you practice moderate interlinking between sites on same IP AND place"no follow" on the links, you'll be safe.

    "no follow" , interlink, 1 ip = you'll be fine.

    I have solid facts for the above, a case study with 9 sites.

    I'm out.
     
    fort lauderdale, Jun 20, 2008 IP
  15. thegreat1002

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    #15
    linking site lacks security
     
    thegreat1002, Jun 21, 2008 IP