238 SCHOLARS rank Bush

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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Here's a better link. Gives you the polling organization and their scores over time. Its funny reading. Bo-Bo comes in 15th ahead of Clinton's average, but not outranking the great FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, or most importantly Woodrow Wilson. No wonder they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize in his first few weeks in office! Think Progress people! And people wonder why more Americans don't register for brainwashing, err College.
     
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    Yawn. Communists don't like anti-Communists. Update at 11. :p
     
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    I noted that a number of other followers of Right Wing perspective and general failures in office also rank incredibly low; Nixon, Harding, etc. Seems like it is the philosophy of destruction and failure:

    Its not surprising the Bush legacy is so bad:

    A) Two wars that continue to go on; being the longest wars in American history
    B) Bush virtually snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, ignoring Afghanistan while he conducted his folly in Iraq
    C) Presided over an economic environment that created the worst recession in about 70-80 years, virtually taking the international banking world and the entire world economy into virtual meltdown. Despite significant signals that the recession was coming Bush did nothing to stop it; following conservative right wing philosophy.
    D) Turned a federal budget surplus into a federal budget deficit
    E) Established systemic debt into the federal budget that exploded in horror when the recession occurred. Talk about stupid economics
    F) Presided over a government that gave away enormous sums of American mony to favored businesses and industries; creating the most enormous socialistic give away in the history of the US:
    1. see Halliburton; Halliburton NO Bid gift of billions

    2. see the drug industry: Republicans/Bush gives the Drug companies billions with this quote describing an impact of the legislation: "The industry's deep inroads into the government are rooted in its dependence on federal decisions. The government determines which products drug companies can market and how they're labeled. The government buys massive quantities of drugs through Medicaid, the Veterans Administration and other programs. Once the new Medicare prescription drug benefit takes effect in 2006, the government will be paying 41% of Americans' drug bills, up from 24% now.

    3. Enabled the Paper Manufacturing Industry to get a tax credit that is worth more than the industry itself here paper manufacturers, I'm giving you Americans money

    238 scholars. They seem to have it nailed it with this guy.
     
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    Wait... let's ask the CPUSA what they think. :p
     
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    What isn't surprising is that 238 scholars find conservative presidents to be worse than progressive ones. Another thing that wouldn't be surprising is find that more than 75% of the 238 scholars are self identified liberals.
     
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    News Flash: Democratic Voters Prefer Democratic Candidates. Update at 11.
     
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    LOL: Non answers from the partisan right. Professional historians versus mouth pieces for the partisan right. LOL
     
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    Almost accurate. Let me re-phrase.

    'Mouth pieces from the partisan left versus mouth pieces from the partisan right'

    Its such a shame when professionals let their politics taint their work. Seriously, Obama > Clinton? Are you kidding me? The left seriously needs to get a handle on their idiocy. Its a disgrace to their professions, whether its 238 Historians, Paul Krugman, or Global Warming scientists. Professionals who were their politics on their sleeve might as well wear a badge that says, "I'm untrustworthy". The military figured that out a long time ago.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    The thread is about Bush, not Obama. The last time this was done was in the early 2000's. These historians now have a better opportunity to evaluate Bush:

    Lets see:

    2 wars still going on, no resolution, longest wars in US history.
    Afghanistan: the war in which Bush virtually snagged defeat from the jaws of victory
    The worst recession in 70 years.

    Its no wonder the guy ranks lowest among modern Presidents.
     
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    More noise from the partisan left :D.

    yes we can!
     
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    My memory may be failing me, was earlpearl such a partisan jackass before the election of The One?

    I don't remember him being this bizarrely irrational during the campaigns.
     
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    Nobody seems to have a beef with the scholars choices for best presidents. The thing that irks the Right Wing is how incredibly low Bush is ranked. I wonder how the scholars figured that out? Could it have been things like:

    1. Two wars, including the longest war in the history of the US...still being fought
    2. One of them probably the greatest example of a US president virtually snapping defeat from the jaws of overwhelming victory
    3. Being president during the period that caused the worst recession in 70 years.

    Eh....doesn't really take a scholar to come to that conclusion, only common sense.
     
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    This is about history, not partnership - The Republicans have themselves, including their language, to blame for being in the minority and stop crying about it. People have short memories and for what should be permanent has ways of being forgotten as a hope for incompetence returning if that helps you.
     
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    Well I'm glad we can chalk you up next to those 238 historians as a non-partisan source of information. I don't know what it is, but every time I see these two, it puts a smile on my face.
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    Perhaps its the memory of better times.
     
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    Yes I do!
     
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    ^^ Yeah we all do, ;)

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    You see Earlpearl? Everyone loves Bush, especially foreigners.

    I honestly didn't personally care for Bush until I embraced Islam.
     
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    Pooooor pooooor O_Nation: regardless of your avatar it appears you have neither the common sense or the academic and research qualities of the 238 Historians who voted and determined Bush was worst of modern presidents?

    Could it have been any of these perspectives?

    1. Two wars, still going on ....with one being the longest war in US history.
    2. Virtually snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Afghanistan.
    3. Doing such a great job as overseer of the economy that we moved into the worst recession in 70 years.

    Oh, by the way, the guy did know a lot about baseball statistics.
     
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    You need some new material man.
     
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