20 Year Old Iranian Woman Analy Raped & Killed By A Baseball Bat In Iran

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ly2, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #21
    I thought it was a college kid??? And if you are trying to compare he was arrested and was found guilty if I remember correctly. He was some white supremacist neo-nazi or similar. So how this compares to the argument at hand is beyond me.
     
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  2. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #22
    What was the name of that serial killer that prisoners raped with a broom and killed? Was it dhamer?
     
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    mactep Active Member

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    #23
    It's sick...
     
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  4. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #24
    First of all I am not spinning anything. Put your jewish bias aside for one second.
    The best to defend oneself against rape accusations is to attack the victim. People do it everywhere including the United States where now the law forbides any attorney to look at the victim's history to put her on trial during rape cases.
    In some muslim countries (and in most 3rd world countries), the legal system is such that sometimes, men with power can get away with pretty much everything. It has nothing to do with Islam but how people can influence the court and get their way and the victim ends up being punished. There are no victim advocates as they are in the US.
    In most cases though, the person who commits the crime or rape is found guilty and pays for it but there are some cases where the victim is blamed and the rapist is able to get away with it. So what?? You found some cases. But I am sure if you were to research the majority of cases where the rapists got punished, you would find no trouble finding them.

    Islam gives great respect and protection to women. But I am sure this is NOT what you want to hear. How women are treated also depend on cultural trends and not necessarily on religion. How women are treated in Morocco, in Syria, in Saudi Arabia, in West Africa, in Malaysia, in Indonesia, etc... is different even though all these areas are islamic.

    Also, with a little bias in mind, one can find bad actions committed by followers of any religion. I read stories about Indian widows forced to be burned alive after their husband's death. I read stories about mass-murderers and rapists who happened to be christians, christians who killed and chopped off their wives or husbands in pieces, etc...
    You will find what you are looking for. Not sure why I am even debating you. Your bias clouds your judgement.

    I do respect women and all the muslims that I know respect women.

    Funny how Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West and more europeans and americans are embracing Islam than ever.
     
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  5. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #25
    This is just sick...oh what the world is coming too....
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    I can just imagine what mossadegh would do to the rapist
     
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  7. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #27
    probably the opposite of praising it....which is what amandenJIHAD and his crazy gang of imams will do...Allah Akbar!!
     
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  8. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #28
    nothing new:rolleyes:

    POSTMAN EATS JACK RUSSELL ALIVE!



    AN evil postman turned his pet Jack Russell into a real-life hotdog by EATING IT ALIVE!
    http://www.sundaysport.com/view.asp?ID=49
    In the most bizarre animal cruelty case ever heard, Reggie Fountain is accused of feasting on his pet pooch while high on drugs. US prosecutors claim Fountain, 49, chewed the dog so badly that it looked like it had been in a dog-fight. Underwear Fountain was arrested after he was spotted in his underwear –– covered in blood –– and clutching the animal. Four police officers had to restrain him so the tragic mutt could be prised from his hands. After showing graphic images to the court, District Attorney Linda Kay Russell told the jury in Shelby County, Texas: “This is actually torture to an animal. He chewed it and ate it. He had blood all over his face, he had blood on his chest, he was in his underwear walking down the street talking to himself and the dog. “His excuse was that he was on cocaine.” The dog, named Chuck, was taken to a vet for emergency surgery and parts of its ears were so badly chewed that they had to be trimmed and straightened. Fountain now faces a lengthy jail sentence if convicted. A spokesman for the local police department said: “What this guy did gave a whole new meaning to taking a bite on a hotdog. “I don’t know how anybody could do this to an animal. “It was sickening.”
     
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  9. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #29

    What the hell does a 'Jewish bias" have to do with the way your religion treats women? It has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.
    You can go on for years about how great Islam treats women, fact is, it's a bold face lie. There is nothing else to call it, it's a lie.

    Women are second class citizens in Islamic countries, are you claiming that women and men are treated as equals in Islamic countries?
     
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  10. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #30
    maybe him too

    this was a nyc police officer
     
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    #31
    Good point ... if we take the position that all abortions are murder,
    the U.S. could be called one of the bloodiest places on Earth given the millions of legal abortions. :rolleyes:
    oh I forgot Christians are peace lovers.
     
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  12. debunked

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    #32
    oh great another "all americans are Christians" type of person.....
     
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  13. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #33
    OK, Here is the big differance between the 20 Year Old Iranian Woman Analy Raped & Killed By A Baseball Bat In Iran and rapes against women in US.

    In Iran the police and government did this to the poor girl.

    In the US, the police would be helping the victim and hunting down the person that raped her.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #34
    yeah usually in the end but sometimes in the beginning the cops are rapers

    http://www.cnn.com/US/9708/20/ny.beating/

     
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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #35
    Is this actually true? About the woman, I mean. Is there any verification from other news streams - Reuters, AP, that type of outlet.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #36
    If I were raped today, I would not report it
    When I was 18 I worked in a pub, and, one evening, the landlord and his son tried to rape me. Somehow I managed to get away. I didn't report the incident to the police because, back in 1980, it was widely recognised that women who reported a sexual assault were usually seen as liars. I imagined that the police would have grilled me on why I was upstairs with two men (I was taking a sneaky break and sharing a cigarette with the son), and why I had been drinking (I had had half a pint of lager). For years afterwards, while campaigning against rape and other crimes as a founder of the group Justice for Women, I bitterly regretted not reporting my attackers. My overwhelming feeling was guilt. What if they succeeded next time?
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,,1930818,00.html
     
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  17. RovingCalypso

    RovingCalypso Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Someone rapes someone in Iran, blame Islam.

    Someone rapes someone a million times over (school shooting, as US raped Iraq), blame GTA vice city, FBI, poor intelligence, whims, mental problems blah blah blah.

    Maybe the iranian guy was having some mental problems. But no siree, some people just love to be hyprocrites.
     
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    #38
    Just curious would you support a small gun for women ? Seems to me
    that rape may be better prevented in some cases if most women carried small guns.
     
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    #39
    No. I don't support any civilian carrying a gun. PERIOD. I am all for the 2nd amendment to be toasted out.
     
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    #40
    I think you would agree that those millions of abortions were predominantly
    from "Christian" women ... sure you can say they are not practicing Christians. :)
     
    CosmicRay, Apr 20, 2007 IP