TightWad you are not out of this either bro, I like your fireball a lot.... since you came up with it I want it so I can get it implemented on beno's design. How much man? Edit: TightWad and Beno please PM me..... Tightwad I need your emblem (sweet looking thing) Beno... I need your simple logo approach and a bit of a modification with tightwad's fireball. (Tightwad's seems more brandable and thats something that is important to me). I am willing to pay you both more to collaborate together and get something great done Please do PM me as you are both the winners I guess lol.