20 elementary school children plus 6 adults shot dead by a guy with a gun

From the New York Slimes comedy reel:

Gotta love the idiocy here..

Yeah, the only reason people want to own a gun is to "shoot a deer"..

And some common sense:

Enjoy the read!

 

In other words - no need for self-defense here. Just ask the Koreans during the LA riots!

Bears repeating:
“The legislators are going to be getting a lot of phone calls in their district offices,” Mr. Schroeder said. “How is taking away my rights to own any type of firearm I choose going to change the attitude of a criminal?”

 

Pretty crazy how something like this completely destroys the Leftist argument against guns. But, because it does, it gets zero attention in the biased media.



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No answers.

 

WOW! I watched that whole video. Twice. Piers Morgan really lost it, it's like watching a slow motion trainwreck. One of the more entertaining clips on YouTube!

Favorite Larry Pratt quotes:
"It seems to me that facts don't bother you, do they Mr. Morgan? They bounce right off of your head."

"With guns come safety if the guns are in the hands of the good guys - and when you say the good guys can't have guns, the bad guys have a monopoly and horrible things such as the shooting at the schools take place."

 

The most recent is great as well.

[video=youtube_share;3C1d4onZsyw]http://youtu.be/3C1d4onZsyw[/video]

 

Piers has been whining on twitter about how the right has not been nice to him. Apparently going to a foreign country and trashing their culture is not the road to universal popularity he'd imagined. Damn, whoda thunkit?

http://twitchy.com/2013/01/11/aww-m...out-right-wing-masses-mobilizing-against-him/

 

This one sets the tone of the argument much better imho.

[video=youtube;gWQPZ-taYBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWQPZ-taYBs[/video]

 

Tone means nothing. Alex Jones may be roughly akin to a rabid hound, but Morgans logic falls apart. Form isnt the point.

Meanwhile... here's my thought on the lovely blue ribbon panel Biden's chair of. Anyone that can listen to that twit talk without hearing the circus music isnt paying attention. Joe's a one man clowncar.

 

Morgan's "tone" in far from being normal..

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc.../crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl07.xls

I think we should also limit knives, bats, and other "dangerous weapons".

 

You joke about that as if it is an absurdity, but in nations with gun bans, that is EXACTLY the discussion taking place

Perhaps next they will go after people's teeth to cut down on biting incidents.

 

The president who is telling us that guns do not make us safe just signed a bill that obligates the US taxpayer to provide him with the protection of men carrying guns for the rest of his life.

Then again he has a commission thats telling us we need to get better at tracking guns, and one of the members of the commission is Eric Holder. The commission's stated purpose is to protect children from school shootings. One of the members of the commission has a son that was convicted of planning a school shooting.

God protects liberals by refusing to give them a functioning sense of irony. Otherwise the knowledge of their blatant hypocrisy would make it hard to function.

 

Well, that's them thing - to Piers, it's all about "tone", not facts. He's very pretentious in that video.

Wow... Thanks for that, Rob!

 

Undue spread of arms is one the major causes of this violence.

 

So true and so so so sad that they live in a fantasy world.. I guess next time someone is held at gun point a polite conversation will do. Or perhaps Biden or Obama will be there to protect us?

Too bad they are too incompetent to even be willing to have a conversation about why the rates are so low in conceal areas..

Yep.. Don't forget cars too:

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He brings up some good points..


Side note: Funny how he doesn't call Jesse Ventura an "incredibly stupid man".. ;-)

 

Instances where guns are OK:

1.) To protect Obama.
2.) To protect Obama's Chicago home.
3.) To protect democratic politicians.
4.) To protect democratic celebs / athletes.
5.) Protect democratic ex-presidents and their family.

 

BUT... outside of those instances, they not only don't make you safer, they endanger you.

 

Since the tragedy in Newtown there has been increased awareness of this topic. Slate Magazine and an anonymous person on twitter who is scraping the news and posting shooting deaths daily are teaming to report this:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

Of course the shootings across the country are as violent and consistent before Newtown as since. The Newtown tragedy raised awareness.

Political forces are attempting to deal with this issue, which essentially has been tabled for years by threats and political intimidation by the NRA and gun interests.

On the national front there is a national commission chaired by VP Biden. He called in the NRA who participated for that day and subsequently said they would have nothing further to do with this. On the very next day Biden called in the manufacturers of violent video games. These manufacturers were among one of the very groups the NRA blamed for violence in their statements made a week or so following the NewTown tragedy.

But even as Biden proceeds and is in the process of formulating recommendations on how to proceed the NRA wants to not be involved. Ironic in that one of the groups they blamed was "on the block" and the NRA doesn't want to further comment or get involved.

Meanwhile independent political forces, with Mayor Bloomberg with tons of money is already organizing to provide counter financings for politicians who will directly oppose the premises of the NRA. On a somewhat similar front moderate Republicans are organizing to finance moderate candidates on issues to directly oppose the GOP arm twisters and proponents of the most extreme tea party right (ie the Koch brothers wing).

The world is changing. The epic scope and monstrous results from NewTown are awakening response on this issue. Its one where politicians have basically been cowed to drop.

Now these issues are going to be addressed and in addition there will be efforts directly counter to the money and threats from the NRA. A political process will ensue.

Frankly I think the Right Wing Tea Party extremists are nuts to be so obstructionist. The ultimate fiscal cliff "deal" was worse from the perspective of the tea partyists upon final negotiations between Biden and Mitch McConnell than where they were when Boehner and President Obama were negotiating the deal. While nothing was concrete evidently the lower limit on raising tax rates was about the same as what resulted but Obama had agreed to cost cutting on certain social welfare elements from the tea party perspective that were not in the deal McConnell negotiated.

The tea party lost by being obstinate.

Meanwhile above in this thread, most recently the hard liners on the right wing are going back and forth having a chatty time with themselves (guys--is that like a circle jerk??).

I'd be involved rather than obstinate. The American political process encourages negotiations. That is the exact opposite from what has occurred over the last 4 years, pretty much going to an extraordinary extreme following Obama's first election. Mitch McConnell vowed to turn the Obama presidency into a one term presidency. A truly unbelievable comment from an elected official during a time when we were 13 months into the worst recession of modern American history, and a pledge that showed his concerns were purely political and didn't give a rat's ass about the nation.

Similarly Paul Ryan attended dinner with other obstinate members of the GOP back in January 2009 and vowed to block EVERYTHING from Obama. Again a telling purely political move in the face of a recession that was non-stop crushing America for the prior 13 months.

Maybe none of you hard line right wingers didn't notice...but neither of those purely political pledges worked, Obama was reelected. Additionally forces within the GOP are organizing to confront the tea party radicals.

Frankly, I'm not against guns or the 2nd Amendment. Tighter restrictions on unlimited easy access to guns and limiting assault weapons or endless volumes of ammo are not issues with the 2nd Amendment.

They are efforts to try and stem the everyday violence, that in the last month, have essentially equated to tragedy equivalent to A NEWTOWN every day in America. Startling but true.

 

You'd have to ask Rachel Madcow, Lawrence O'Donnel, Al Sharpton, and Ed Shultz. The never ending circle jerk on that station could put any Ron Jeremy or Peter North feature film to shame. I honestly doubt they can hear ANYTHING but the sound of their own voices at this point.

So true. Bob Woodward wrote a great book on Obama's obstinate nature, poor leadership, and refusal to negotiate. You should read it. Even the networks are starting to show the emperor has no clothes. Check out the dressing down Obama gets today in a presser from a CBS reporter. I laughed my ass off, especially at the professorial arrogance demonstrated by Obama in response to the question. He clearly has an aversion to the truth and to having his lies and deceptions questioned:
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Maybe you didn't notice. The Tea Party not only got reelected, they picked up another of those precious few 100 Senate seats.

Hey, I understand the corrupt Republican Party you rail against every single day does not like having to shape up or be primaried out of existence. So much so, in fact, they are willing to join forces with Democrats to fight the Tea Party. Too F'n bad. The Tea Party exists because the Republicans have been fairly indistinguishable from the Democrats for a very long time.

The Democrats are welcome to the few scumbags that remain when we get through culling the herd. We'll be happy to trade them for centrists in the Democratic party who care more about fiscal sanity than party loyalty, and we will get them.

Terrific! Perhaps you can join us in our defense of the 2nd amendment against a child president who believes himself to be an Emperor or a God.

 

If we got together I'd use the butt end of a gun to knock some sense into your teaparty crazed head. Then I'd buy ya a scotch (but probably save the good stuff for myself)--why waste the good stuff on a knucklehead.

 

Save the good stuff for yourself? That type of two tier treatment sounds exactly like every other left wing proposal. I'd be happy to share my finest scotch with you. Of course I'd have to run it through my body first.