I just got put on an SEO team for a new client. For privacy reasons, i cannot reveal their website. However, their original site has a 7/10 ranking but their new one, global.clientsite.com is not indexed by google. The old one redirects to the new one and the new one has 1600 DOFOLLOW backlinks of its own. yet, when i look up Google PR for the new site, it shows as not found. They have all their Meta tags in place too. Does anyone know why?
Have you submitted a sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools? This is the first thing I do whenever I have a problem getting pages indexed on Google. Often times I just automatically do it when I launch a site. This prevents future indexing problems.
lol, try reading his post. He said he cannot reveal the website. The url he gave was just an example.
I did read it, but I admit I missed what he meant. I thought he was revealing the new one rather than the old one. It was the subdomain the caught me out. So to continue the answer, ganpat are you saying that it says no PR found or no site indexed?
Exactly. I can't reveal the name of the client. The site is 2 years old. According to backlinkwatch.com, there are 1638 backlinks. The main site has a PR 7 and 13,000 inbound links. The site it redirects to, the one i'm talking about has 1638 backlinks, yet, no PR.
Not sure why you want to want the old site to redirect to the new site when it is a PR7. I can see this ending up in tears!
It is kind of strange. With that number of links, the site must have been found many many times by the search bots. The problem cant be a site map. You maybe doing something really wrong. Cat tell what.
Just as waxman said, for your site to be taken off the index completely can be concerning... was the site out of the index immediately after the redirect? Could be a lagtime in Google recalculating the PR after the redirect. I am assuming it is a 301? Since subdomains are seen as separate websites outside of the root, perhaps the question is whether Google sees the site as new? It also could be that sometimes when I updated content, the PR on those pages go from 5 to zero for sometime before Google has time to refigure. I know there has been one instance when I updated my site and it fell out. Just thinking out loud...
Well I got put on the project today, so no idea who did what in the past. But thanks for the suggestions. It gives me a starting point. I'll keep you posted on the progress.
PR7 site redirecting to subdomain? As far as i understand site.com is redirecting to subdomain.site.com Is that what is doing? Why??? Its not the best idea i guess. Don't mess with your client site, be carefull. Also, if your client has PR7, he knows something about SEO i guess. Why does he need a SEO team? To do what?
I think you have just helped answer your question. If the subdomain is new then its not going to have a PR. You need to wait for the next PR update. I just want to check that you know the definition of indexed and PR are different. You understand the difference, yeh?
Yes i do understand the difference. The main site is 5 years old, the subdomain is 2 years old. I think that is enough time to get both indexed and a PR.
The client is a multi-national and an expert in their field. They have come to us for PR, advertising and SEO. SEO is maybe 10% of the entire project. I agree that I may not have much to do, but I like to use these opportunities to learn as there is still a lot I want to know about this field. That's why I was curious about this. I've done courses in SEO and have been doing SEO for 3 years now, but I have learned more at digital point from guys like you than any course has ever taught me. So i was curious and wanted to tap into your experience in this matter. Hope that answers your question.
My question would be why if you have a PR7 as the domain you want to redirect it to a subdomain? It makes no sense. Why not keep the domain and 301 all the content and just use the main page to point internal links to the new subdomain. You won't be able to put that subdomain to be a PR7 right of the bat.
this...The reason people are confused in this thread is because you are asking a vague two part question. You say the site doesn't exist in Google then you say it has no PR. 1)Scenario 1 - after a permanent redirect of such an old established website it can take weeks before Google understands this established Pr7 giant is no longer there and now at a new residence. In this time your website will be in limbo and the new site redirected to will not have any benefits of the older site... (I know I just redirected an old PR 5 to a new directory due to a great domain name) Scenario 2 - The site was redirected improperly in which case make sure you have a permanent redirect in place. Scenario 3 - The site was redirected properly and Google has recognized it but has NOT updated PR since the redirect went into place. Chances are you just missed the PR update in which case you will have to wait. Either way, you will undoubtedly lose some SERPS and possibly PR when it does update because redirect can be an ugly beast to deal with. All you can do is redirect properly, hope for the best and move forward.
So when you say redirect properly, what do you mean? The reason I ask is that I am not the webmaster for this site. I literally got the project yesterday and am in the process of finding out what the last group of people did. And the redirect has been in place since 2007, or so I am told.
I am referring to the 301 Redirect aka Permanent redirect which lets SE's know that a page is permanently at a new residence. Found more detailed info on it. http://www.webconfs.com/how-to-redirect-a-webpage.php The redirect has been in place since 07? We're in 09. If you have reservations about a redirect from 2 years ago, that's a lost cause. Since I now know the timeframe I have to assume something else is wrong here if the redirected page was in Google for 2 years after the redirect, then disappeared along with all PR.