2 White teachers have sex with 6 black boys 11-15

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/03/28/teacher.sex.race.ap/index.html

    Sex scandal stirs racial tensions in southern town
    POSTED: 2324 GMT (0724 HKT), March 28, 2007
    Story Highlights
    • Two white women teachers are accused of having sex with black male students
    • Arrests stir racial tensions in conservative Southern town
    • South Carolina community has a Ku Klux Klan museum
    • The students' ages ranged from 11 to 15

    feel sorry for these womens husbands...they were married and educated
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    We live in different times, that's for sure. One one hand, I should and do condemn such, but that little midget dude that sits on my shoulder and tries to convince me right is wrong and wrong is right keeps saying "damn, we didn't have teachers like that when we were growing up!"

    Still, I struggle :D
     
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  3. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Rape isn't among the story highlights? Priorities, priorities.

    For some reason, female teachers who rape male students get off easier than male teachers who rape female students. I think that's interesting in all these cases.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    haha!!! That happened in Clinton, about 30 minutes from where I live...the funny this is that in the opposite direction is a town called prosperity...there is an infamous sign on the highway that says
    Clinton <-
    Prosperity ->

    Somehow though, I am not surprised this came out of clinton...
     
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  5. demosfen

    demosfen Peon

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    We have involuntary education system, not much you can do unless you want to homeschool
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    actually there is...as a parent you can get involved and be a part...the problem is more parents are working these days, and more parents are unmarried, and more idiots that can't afford 1 kid are having many more...
     
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  7. demosfen

    demosfen Peon

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    You can't actually, they don't accept input. They have so-called Parent-Teacher Association, where school administration tells parents what they should think, how much they should donate, and why sending children to private schools is bad. They won't even admit that quality of education in public school is inferior despite costing twice as much as private school. If you try to withdraw the child from school, they go to court and file truancy charges. If you persist, they can take the child away from you to protect his/her right for education. So good luck if you don't want the child to be raped and dumbed down
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    LOL dude I take it that you don't like Clinton. :(

    I thought were a true Democrat. :p
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    Something tells me these boys didn't take much encouragement. I mean, if I was 15 again and offered it on a plate by some fit 24 year old teacher I'd probably jump at the chance!

     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    with signs like this, no wonder people are fools.
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    That's really missing the point isn't it? The teacher shouldn't have been encouraging the kids to have sex with her, should she?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    who votes for the school board? Go to a meeting...often parents have more say at a meeting than the school board officials....all you have to do is voice your opinion. Of course, if you succumb to the fact that you say you have no voice and stay home, then don't complain.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    I fully accept that lorien. All I'm saying is they might not have required much coersion.

     
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  14. Josh Inno

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    There are 2 reasons why this is rape.

    First of all, those students were under the age where it is legal to have sex with them. The government, in it's wisdom, has stated that below a certain age, a person is not competent to successfully weigh the immediate gratification of sex against it's potential consequences, and thus for one to engage in sex with someone below a specific age is rape. In my state the age is 18, and people that have legally gotten married in other states, and have children, have been arrested for having sex in our state "because they were to young."

    This is also true even if a youth has been judged an emancipated minor: a minor competent enough to run their own life, have a job, rent an apartment, and live without supervision of someone of the age of adulthood. By the way, these are the children that will be tried and sentenced in adult court, since they 'obviously are old enough to understand the ramifications of their actions'.

    Now, I'm not saying an 11 year old is competent to make a decision like this, but a 15 year old might be.


    However, perhaps more convincing, the mere fact that a teacher says "have sex with me" has coercion built into it.

    It comes with attached statements like "have sex with me or I'll ruin your academic career" "have sex with me, or I'll give you detention" "have sex with me, or I'll tell your parents you've been misbehaving and need medication." It's the same reason that sex between a commanding officer and a subordinate in the military is considered rape. When a large difference in power exists, the ability to say "no" is not as simple as without that difference in power. The sheer difference in power is considered coercion or force applied to gain consent, the same as if someone was pointing their gun to someone's head and said "have sex with me". If the person consents, to keep their head from being blown off, it's not really consent due to that coercion.
     
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    I saw her picture and she was not "fit".
    :D

    It doesn't matter whether they needed encouragement or not it was rape. If a man did that he would likely never get out of prison or if he did he would be an old man.

    A young female can be just as willing as a young male but we lock men up anyway.

    It is time we started treating women equally and just for the good things but the bad as well.
     
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    You really don't have a voice. The system works like this. The assemblymen make decisions based on instructions they receive from lobbyists and corporate donors. They decide what children should/shouldn't learn, what they should eat, what vaccines they should received, etc. Parents don't have any power over what children learn or who teaches them, they can't opt out of evolution theory or any other doctrine school teaches, etc. If you refuse to submit your child for education, they'll take him away. (Even if s/he was raped). If you refuse to pay for it, they'll confiscate your house. Basically it's a scheme to rob taxpayer under pretense of providing involuntary service. You have to pay even if you don't have children in public school, or if you are infertile for that matter. No exceptions.
    Here in NY, the Assembly passed a law giving school employees immunity against prosecution for any administrative violation, so parents aren't having much success requesting even those rights they have. Many of these people would be unemployable in private sector, I have a relative who teaches math in public school, basically he is a PC gaming addict to a degree where it borders insanity. With so much money collected for public school, you'd expect they would pay enough to attract able teachers.
    The board doesn't decide much. How kind it would be of them to allow you to vote on how they will educate YOUR child! We should really appreciate it. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Josh Inno

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    First of all, I agree that the lack of recourse available in public schools is horrid, however it's not always on the part of parents or students. For example, they pasted the head of a female teacher on a nude picture, and distributed it across the school.

    There was a case I recall where students have sexually harassed teachers, teachers have issued punishment, and this punishment was revoked by administration after parents complained that their students were merely using 'their freedom of speech' and should not be punished. The students then continued their harassment.

    But yes, even in one of the better high schools in my city, I recall that in order to take any programming classes since I wanted to learn more about a programming language I had already dabbled in, I had to first take a class to teach me... how to use Microsoft office... and Windows. I went into that class knowing more about basic computing than either the teacher or the text book the class was so flawed... and I had no way to transfer to another class if I wanted to get to basic. At times I went -beyond- the assignment, did more than I had too, in order to challenge myself. The teacher actually graded me down on that. I was also graded down because I had multiple stand offs with her based on the facts, and refused to put down incorrect answers, which she then graded based on the book. I terrorized her simply by being a principled and knowledgeable student, when she was a teacher who obviously was pulling double duty.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    well, down here in SC, if you want to voice your opinion you go to the school board...groups get some great reactions out of the school board as well...furthermore, we vote on who is on the school board...those that make idiotic decisions don't get re-elected...
     
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    demosfen Peon

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    If only school board had any power... Everything already has been decided by the Assembly and is written into the state law
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    our school board does have power...they hire and fire teachers...these women should be fired and locked away.
     
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