2 sandbox questions

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by xenyo, Sep 8, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi wanted to ask the below,

    1. When we get out of the sandbox, is it a sudden thing or gradual. I mean, is it one day I am looking at 2 visitors a day and then suddenly, BOOOM ... 3000uniques.

    2. If I can find my site in the allinachor: for the keyword, does that mean I am not in sandbox even if its only on page 3 ... I suppose this is connected to item 1.



    Thanks,

    Matt
     
    xenyo, Sep 8, 2006 IP
  2. zokiii

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    #2
    When you got out of sandbox, you may not have any visitors from google.
    It is related how you did your SEO. If you got backlinks and optimize site good for your keywords you could expect to see visitors coming from google but this is also related with your keyword popularity - is it searched or not.

    search with allinanchor is got nothing with sandbox.
    This is google advance operator which returns a list of pages and sites that contain the keyword as anchor text in their backlinks.

    You could test if your site is in sandbox with allintitle and allinanchor operators.
    If you rank well for these advanced searches and you are nowhere when you search for that keyword, then you are probably sandboxed.
     
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  3. xenyo

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    Thx Zokiii,

    I realise that it also has to do with my SEO efforts but what I meant was does Google one day decide .. ok this site is out of the sandbox and then sudenly your rankings are not affected by the sandbox anymore.

    or ... is the decreased effect a gradual thing over say 1 year.
     
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  4. zokiii

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    I will accept this .
     
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  5. Bundy

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  6. MattUK

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    I doubt you'll have seen much of a traffic explosion on that, there wouldn't be a great deal of difference in traffic for a site at 200 in the SERPS and a site at 20. Top 10 and top 3 is where the real benefits of SEO are.
     
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    The jump of the keyword (extremely high competitive field) it was measured for gave me 400 daily visits boost back then.
     
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  9. Bundy

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    It is.
    Btw since then I’ve been in top10 and can say you those estimations are very imprecise. Perhaps users’ behavior is a slightly different on AOL and Google.
     
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    I'm curious how you know they are imprecise?

    You'd need to know the total searches, the total clicks and the percent of the total clicks coming your way.
     
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  11. xenyo

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    There is also the question of how it affects longer phrases with the keyword in.

    example ... the sandbox for 'Internet' would be very long I assume... However, would the day you get out of the Box for Itnernet.... you will see increased traffic for longer phrases with the keyword in or is each phrase treated independantly regardless?


    Question questions questions...
     
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  12. Bundy

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    It doesn’t affect long tails. They are not sandboxed from the first place; and I didn’t detect any dependence between them and competitive keyword’s positions.
     
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    No, all I need to know is daily clicks on various top10 positions.
    Until now I’ve been able to track any activity on every spot except top3.
     
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  14. xenyo

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    OK heres another one..

    If I have a site and change its topic and everything and tagert new keywords... Would I be still in the sandbox for those new keywords? Even for a 7 year old domain?

    What if topic is just slightly different...

    i.e. a T-Shirt site and expanding into clothing...
     
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    when your site sandbox, it also depend on other factors. for e.g from which sites your site is linked or they are relevent to your site content.:)
     
    internetmarketing, Sep 19, 2006 IP
  16. KeithCash

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    #16
    I have a website (built from scratch) that has not been effective by the sandbox.

    I started it in June 20 2006

    As Sept 20 2006 90 days. I have generated 93 sales leads for the the sales department.

    They have closed 2 sales for $3200+ total

    One of my other sites is over 2 years Jul 2004 start. Generate 4-6 leads a day and will do over $300K this year

    Been very lucky.
     
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    He asked if he is on page 3 for allintitle and allinanchor searches and but for those keywords, he is no where in search results, so does it effectively mean he is sandboxed for sure!! I am in the same boat, that's why i am asking this question.
     
    ketan9, Oct 4, 2006 IP