16 year old girl lashed 50 times in public - no prizes for guessing who by

I disagree, no one committing atrocities should be ignore, they should all be given the attention they so deserve by executing them, or whatever course of action capable of ridding their effect on the world. One reason they still exist is because many Muslims refuse to publicly denounce their actions, which I believe is because Muslims fear that they would also be labeled as terrorist, which I partly understand giving the vast number of posters in here who labels all Muslims as terrorist or see them turning into terrorists sooner or later.

 

That makes no sense. Those who stand up against terrorism and usually called friends.

The supporters of terrorism or those who claim it isn't that bad or that it is because of the great and little satans, etc... those tend to get labeled terrorists or terrorist supporters.

 

I am happy to see that people around here understand what is happening these days. I wish all the ones fighting against terrorism good luck and destroy all these terrorists

 

I think Nobility is the most important thing in human life.

Islam calls for Nobility and prepare punishment for those who transgress Its limits.

If I am in the west, I should never get punished for being almost naked since it is common to see them in such manner, if not seeing them practicing sex openly as animals.

You are judged according to your context.

If I am in a respected modest society, I must be punished for being almost naked.

Regarding this story, I think the girl is not a child/western, she is able to distinguish between right and wrong and can understand the moral of her society, so she should not show off her body as boys there don't show off their body, too.

I don't want to comment on the punishment in more words than "it is not mentioned in the Holy Quran".

I was flogged many times in the school for not wearing the saudi dress assigned for shcools, but I think they have the right to punish for not following the rules.

You are not supposed to look sexy in respected areas.

So, my logo to myself is: Be polite, or be away from light.

 

Polite teen, you hooligan, I didn't know you had that type of rebellion in you.

I have never been flogged. That is where they hit you in the back with a stick or something? Does it hurt? How many times do they hit you for wearing the wrong type of clothes?

 

I've been flogged - it was in an entirely different setting though, I assure you

Polite Teen - you believe that a person's SHINS are "almost naked"?

Does that mean you will never see your wife's shins before marrying her? Or that you get an erection when you see an ankle?

If a calf is "almost naked" then a sip of wine a year makes you an alcoholic ^-^;

 

Interesting. Its a nice open declaration of your culture. I think removing definitive descriptions such as "noble", "respected", and perhaps even "modest" would be in order. We all like to think our own culture has a patent on Nobility, Respect, right, and wrong, when in reality, it is only people from your own culture who find you respectable and agree with your ideas of right and wrong.

In our culture, we find marrying/having sex with 13 year old girls reprehensible, and we send people to jail for that kind of behavior. We find corporal punishment for what you call a lack of modesty(flogging a girl for showing ankle skin) barbaric. We call people who kill other people for saying things that are heretical to any religion, uneducated murders.

You run into problems when you start exporting your culture with violence, which happens on a regular basis.

 

No, I don't believe so when it comes to males.

If I could see anything in my wife before marrying her, I would do so, and it is lawful.

If I couldn't, how can I discover her? shall I behave as rapists?

She will be dressing her usual dress, and I will look at her in that case.

 

You dont even have the balls to reject the act in this case which is indefensible, simply because in your eyes Muslims can do no wrong. The girl is not a Muslim, so forcibly imposing your Muslim dress code is saying everyone HAS to be Muslim, or at least cow to it's backward beliefs. And you wonder why Islam is wearing out its welcome in other countries.

Beating a 16 year old girl is a savage act of desperate cowards, petulant bullies who see the world slipping rapidly away from their benighted homophobic misogynistic cult.

 

Islam defines a way of wearing clothes, but if someone who doesn't follow it, then they cant be forced to do so. However, if feasible and if we know there wont be any harm we can tell them(not force) about the clothes etc and we are done.

 

They were not wrong in making a uniform respected dressing for the school.

I didn't consider their rules for many times, then they had to punish me for violating the rules.

I admit that it is me who was wrong.

They didn't flog me too much for this reason, only 4 lashes at my hand.

I was lashed more for other reasons such as jocking in the class and not doing the homework.

Marriage is a project to develop life. It is not as adultery.
Forcing girls to marry whom they don't like is wrong action and to be condemned.

There is no punishment for showing ankle skin. I don't know how you can invent a lie, then believe yourself?

We call people who attack the truth as criminals. and we prepare punishment for each criminal.

Murderers are criminals, and they are killed in Islam as they kill.

It is your problem that you see the police as murderer just because you don't want to see him in context of responding to terrorists.

 

Sorry, I forgot I was addressing a true believer. I am impressed that you were actually able to respond to my post without directly addressing a single thing in it. I suppose it could be a language issue, but I doubt it.

In case you forgot, the post that started the thread was this:

Your response:

Your accusation and argument lies with the Guardian, not me. Personally, I believe the article.

Where I come from we call that a thinly veiled threat of violence, worthy of putting you on any number of watch lists, if not actual arrest.

I noticed you didn't address my comments about marrying children(13 and under, hell 16 and under). I suppose there isn't much for you to say about it, because it is common knowledge. Same for honor killings.

Like I said earlier, if your culture dictates you should shit in your cereal, pray to it, then eat it, that is your business. While I may feel many of your customs are uneducated, barbaric, and cruel based on my culture, it really isn't my problem. If there weren't bombs going off in our embassies, train stations, or commercial plazas in an effort to spread your culture, I probably wouldn't even waste the time thinking about people like you.

 

Its really disgusting.

 

You, too, are inventing a lie, then believe it.

I didn't say that muslims cannot do wrong.

Look at this

Beating anyone without reason is bad action, not only 16 years old girl.

If you came to a respected company while wearing wrong clothes, you will be dismissed. Check.

I said to you that the punishment for the thread story is not mentioned in the Holy Quran.

I didn't comment on the story as it is not so clear for me.

I believe that you should wear a respected clothes in high society.

If you are in low society, dress sexy clothes, be even naked, do whatever, no one will punish you.

 

Maybe when you grow up and have a child of your own you'll understand how ridiculous beating that girl is. [By then maybe the brainwashing will have faded.]
Meantime, that's a pretty sad acceptance of the bullying attitude and Islamic bigotry.

 

So an ankle is only "almost the same as naked" when it's a woman's ankle?

SMEXI.

 

no it is not.

 

Me:

You:

You said that, and now you're saying "no it is not".

Please explain.

 

Agreed, you can't have it both ways. The people should've let it up to the parents. They had absolutely no right... especially with someone of another belief.

 

Males and females are not equal.

When a male don't dress a shirt, it doesn't affect people as when a female do that.

If the female show off her shins, it is getting near to the state of almost neked.

You were asking me a bout shins, then you replace it to ankle. It is not fair.