they've always ranked #1 or #2 for 'seo' in google... now they don't appear... at least from what i see.
yeah.. they're gone, and their page count in the site: command is showing a mere 100 results.. and half of those are titles only without description. Looks like they're in trouble.
can't say i feel bad for them.. i always see ads on craigslist (here in san diego) for seoinc jobs... they only pay 12-16 bux an hour depending on experience, and god only knows what they have you doing...probably lots of 'busy work' and link building.
yeah.. pretty messed up.. like I have this religious-educational site with high PR and one of their employees e-mails seeking a link for a health site!
I was wondering exactly the same thing today, toddieg. Ever since I remember, Seoinc used to be #1 for "search engine optimization".
They actually fell of the map last Saturday, the same day their Google IBLs went up +900 (sandboxed?)
Traditional SEO services offer progressively less value to sites and these days SEO is an integral part of content and site-building rather than some outsourced, overpriced icing on the proverbial cake. If you don't know your own niche well enough to get links, surely it's worth you finding relevant sites and contacting them personally rather than paying someone else with less commitmemt to your market to send a templated message. Jeremy
seoinc baught like 10 PR8 site-wides and pointed them all to their index page with the same anchor. Pretty dumb move, if you ask me.
Actually, Spdude, I had noticed at many places that Seoinc was buying links. I always thought it was a risky move to be so open about it. I guess It was. The people over there must be in total panic. I remember seing on their homepage something like "just search for search engine optimization and you will see we are #1"
They have been spamming webmasters with their "please exchange links" emails - actually it was a company they had hired. They would give you a link back from a garbage site and require you to link to them. bad practice. Hasta la vista baby
having a link on another website is ADVERTISING? is it not? since when is it wrong to want to grow your company or site presence on the web ? I can appreciate it as wrong if they were using link farms or offering 1000's of reciprocals, Will google algo start to penalise businesses from advertising if they are NOT using ADWORDS to do it? soon there will only be one way to advertise, do you see it going this way??? <EDIT> <<sitetutor...you answered some of my questions there..10 out of 10 for mindreading!!>>
Problem is that they made it clear that they weren't "advertising" and were looking for links just for the PR benefit.