1000 queries per day?

Discussion in 'Google API' started by HenrikAI, May 23, 2006.

  1. #1
    With the Google APi, I am able to do 1000 queries per day. But how does this work with popular pagerank-tools? I suppose many of them get a lot more than 1000 requests each day?

    Appreciate any answers. Thanks.

    EDIT: Ok, found out I can't get PR with the Google API. Please ignore this post. :eek:
     
    HenrikAI, May 23, 2006 IP
  2. tagcloud

    tagcloud Peon

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    Google web APIS allows you to submit 1000 queries a day
    Many web sets which offer value added functionality on top of Google web API ask you to enter your key in a box somewhere on the page.Thus you can use the page 1000 times a day but other people who put in their keys can also use their 1000 query limit.Thus the page can potentially used millions of times a day without violating any Google TOS

    As far as i know there is no way retrieve page rank from Web APIs.I am myself trying to do it for my web API desktop application.
     
    tagcloud, May 24, 2006 IP
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    websitetools Well-Known Member

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    However, if your usage is commercial... E.g. for a site showing ads / whatever. You need to get permission first. And, well, I have tried (two times some months apart, the second time I almost resorted to begging :eek: ), and Google's auto response is they do not give permission anymore.

    And if you intend to write software, even freeware (which per definition is often commercial if it pushes a site selling other commercial stuff)... Well... again, you need permission... Which you can not get. At least I did not get any response beyond the auto for my SEO shareware tool.

    Anyways... My conclusion is that "fair use" is OK no matter the technique... (Personally I believe the API is worse compared to scraping... As it actually requires more 10 * queries). Anyways, the whole thing still seems weird to me as Google does allow some SEO companies access to their API...? Hmm... Divide and conquer? :D
     
    websitetools, May 29, 2006 IP
  4. tagcloud

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    I really dont know whats the secret to getting Google's acceptance for commercial usage.I hv heard that www.copyscape.com has got it.Also a few others maanged to get it but theres no well defined path to it




     
    tagcloud, May 30, 2006 IP
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    websitetools Well-Known Member

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    Well, if one just could license it then...
    But Google just completely ignores me :)


    I just posted this message to google.public.web-apis :
    " Conflicting FAQ / terms whether OK to make software support WebAPI "


    First, using a normal definition of "commercial", the following is not OK :
    • Owning a website serving e.g. Google Adsense ads (thus commercial)
    • Checking position of a phrase to find out if website ranks well.

    Most free services / products implementing Google WebAPI usually push
    a service, product or something, thus, they are all commercial as
    well...

    Even so, most people seem to believe they do not need to ask permission
    for above... At least that is my impression... This leaves me to
    believe "commercial usage" may be meant to be interpreted in a specific
    context? Reading the FAQ is also quite interesting:

    "
    13. Can I develop commercial applications using Google Web APIs?
    You can develop any application you want, but you must abide by the
    Google Web APIs terms of service. One condition is you cannot create a
    commercial service using Google Web APIs without first obtaining
    written...
    "

    As the question specificly retains to "commercial" software... And the
    first line states "You can develop any application you want"... And
    later specificly mentions service as something to ask permission for...
    Well, together with the fact (my impression) that many prominent, and
    less prominent, companies making SEO shareware support the Google
    WebAPI... It seems to me that Google does not mind if:

    1. Users of the application still need to supply their own Google WebAPI key.
    • The application does not compete with Google (doh!)

    Is that the consensus?

    If is not the case, and Google indeed does allow some companies to use
    the WebAPI, but others not, is the whole WebAPI then a brilliant
    "divide and conquer" strategy? :)
     
    websitetools, May 30, 2006 IP
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    What if I create 100s of google key and use those to search google? Does google can tract such activities?
     
    enampwd, Jun 24, 2006 IP
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    no :)
    i did it
     
    akor, Jun 24, 2006 IP
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    I think most of the commercial popular webtools doing this without asking the user to key-in the Google API :) .
     
    born2win, Jul 14, 2006 IP