100 USD per day?

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  1. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #21
    i like the 100 sites time $5 each a day approach

    once you have worked your ass off to get one site ranked only to be kicked out a bit later, it will makes more sense to you

    hosting and domains cost next to nothing
     
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  2. RectangleMan

    RectangleMan Notable Member

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    #22
    Just remember you can dig through trash and get a nickel for each can. Essentially that's easier than what we do and I bet it can be profitable from day one. With a site you can put a lot of effort into it and money with little return on investment (ROI).

    You might look at many of us here and think..hey I can do that...and you can. But it's NOT easy and don't be fooled because we make it look easy. There are pros here that do this 60 hours a week myself included. I sit on my puter for about 12-15 hours EVERY DAY....yeah...EVERY DAY.

    Get a job and blog.
     
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  3. Perrow

    Perrow Well-Known Member

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    #23
    So you should decide between 3 or 10 sites. Well you know what it takes to work on one site. If you do then just multiply, if you don't then learn. Start one (1) site and work on it for one or two months, then you know what that feels like, you know how much traffic you can get in two months and what adsense (and or affilates) brings you for those visitors. At that time you can decide between 3 or 10 or even 100 sites, but if you don't know what one feels like then don't start three.
    Also known as Under the radar marketing and Stealth marketing :cool:
     
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  4. andyd

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    #24
    I started my first site last year and after building the first one, I then got bored with link building and moved onto my second one - funnily enough neither of them have done too well over that year and a bit.

    I would say start small but think big - the old quote of 'from small acorns big oak trees grow' still holds true, build your first site - optimise it and link build, link build and link build again, then start thinking about other sites.

    it is all very well building 100 sites to earn $1 a day but even if you do not do much maintenance on them you still need to build some links for the SE's to find them and believe me after spending the last six months link building - ok not all day everyday but for a couple of hours each day it is a soul destroying process!
     
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  5. jlawrence

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    #25
    How many sites you develop at once depends on a few factors:
    1) the type of site
    2) how you intend to market the site, including how much money you have to market the site.
    3) the expected visitor levels for the site
    If you've got the money, and time, then you can do multiple sites at once.
    I aim to knock out 2 or 3 affiliate sites a month - simply becuase many go straight into the sandbox. Some convert and some don't - I've never yet worked out why. But with affiliate sites, you're reliant on the end vendor site as well as your own. Throw enough mud and some sticks, enough sites and you'll find some that convert reasonably - these are the ones you then put more effort into marketting and developing.
    I have some sites that simply don't convert at all - but they do get visitors (perhaps the pricing is crap or something). These are the sites I throw adsense on, opptimize for adsense and then pretty much ignore.
    Even when sites are in the sandbox, it takes time and money to market them - market them correctly and when they exit the sandbox, traffic should rocket (or at least increase).

    If you're aiming to get $100 per day quickly, then you need lots of sites. Of these sites, only a few will become long term projects/sites. But you need to market them all in the first instance as you simply don't know which ones will become the long term earners - and that's why getting started is difficult. But if you're looking for $100 per day, then you're talking about a business developing sites. Running a business takes time and money, especially in the early day. So treat it like a business and you stand a chance - treat it as a get rich quick hobby and you'll probably make next to nothing.
     
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  6. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #26
    Firstly, you are trying to build made for adsense sites (which is against the TOS), secondly, if you get to $100 a day from adsense, at $1 a click you will need 100 clicks a day and at 5% ctr that is alot of visitors. then take away expenses & time invested.
    You will also be wasting 95% of your traffic.

    So try working the otherway round..
    IF I build something good, then Ill get good traffic, then I can make revenue from products or subscriptions THEN extra revenue from adsense.
     
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  7. subhendu

    subhendu Peon

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    #27
    Hi...

    I liked shoemoney's idea: develop 1 site a week. It's easier for him as he already has many high traffic sites.

    For a newbie, I think, one should target on 1-site-a-month. Build one site, submit to directories, search engines, write articles, post in forums...do other promotions, so that a decent amount of traffic starts coming in.

    In my case I have seen, I'm jumping @ 50% every month on an average. Initially I earned $1 a day when started on Feb, which was $4 a day last month. This month I'm expecting $7 a day. I'm not making sites targeting high-value adwords. On the contrary, I'm getting higher value ads for the same sites every month.

    You must have high traffic site keeping the visitors happy. If you work on that forgetting how much you can earn from adsense, high earning from adsense will follow.

    I guess, (I may be wrong), G serves better (means high value) ads for older domains and older adsense accounts.
     
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  8. kawebspy

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    #28
    to let you know, on 1999, I created 5 websites in just one month. And my real problem are, the content and site links, because I am not using a content management software.

    CMS is already available on these days, but I am still facing the problem on the sites' content.

    Yes we can use some free re-print articles for our site but for me doing such is not a good thing for my site and I am just promoting the authors of those articles and their websites. I think, writing my own articles will be much better for the site. But writing articles or content for 5 sites is really tough, plus you need to promote the site as well. 5 hours working that 5 sites seems not enough.
     
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  9. GADOOD

    GADOOD Peon

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    #29
    Writing articles is easy. Serenity in here writes them for $7 each. That's a whole website start-up nailed in under $200. Then you just need to top it up every few days, or every week with fresh content - another $14/week. Use the articles, submit them to ezine article banks to gain relevant back-links without lifting a finger. It really isn't easy or time-consuming. Those that spend hours on their sites quite simply must love doing it, or they feel they /need/ to.

    There's no shame in not wanting to work.......... it's the main reason I'm doing this - to earn as much as I can, working as little as I can. I'd rather be free to spend my days and evenings doing what I want, thanks!

    Start-up a bunch of sites up for $1,000 and keep them topped up with content, do what I said up there ^ and learn SEO and research your topic and keywords.

    There's no reason you have to spend more then 1-2 hours/week (yes, even with 5 sites) to earn more then most people could ever dream of working their 9-5's.

    Writing your own content is the biggest waste of time. Get someone else to do it, there's other things you could be doing like researching another site topic while your freelancer churns your content out for peanuts, or test-driving Porsches in anticipation of what the next year will bring you once you're out of the sandbox. :p

    Pete
     
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  10. yfs1

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    #30
    I will note though in the example above, once you submit those articles to to the different distribution sites, they are no longer unique. You might as well have used someone elses.

    A tweak to that formula is to have the $200 worth written for your own site then additional articles written that will be for distribution ;)
     
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  11. GADOOD

    GADOOD Peon

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    #31
    I'm sure aslong as they we're indexed on your site first Google sees you as the original author, and the rest of the sites using your articles as just duplicates. But that would be a nice tweak to be sure I agree yeah!

    Pete
     
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  12. MattL

    MattL Well-Known Member

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    #32
    For those just starting out and still learning it is much better to start with just one or two sites. When you are starting out you will make mistakes, sometimes small ones, possibly big ones. If you start out with dozens of sites while you're still green there is a good chance you will make those mistakes across all of your sites and waste more time and effort recovering.
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #33
    Completely agree. There's the old saying learn how to walk before you can run. That very much applies to this. Learn how to build one good/profitable site before attempting others.

    IMHO another disadvantage with taking on too much work (too many sites) is that you wont have the motivation and know how to dedicate enough time/resources each site deserves and end up just giving up.

    Hang in there with one or two sites, work hard on them, then let the good times roll.. :)
     
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  14. jlawrence

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    #34
    As I said previously, formulas depend on the type of site.
    Content driven sites take a lot more planning and maintenance than an affiliate site.
    I don't doubt that content sites may make more money from adsense than an affiliate site.
    But at least with an affiliate site, assuming you've designed it so that you don't get hit by duplicate filters, you've got more than one potential source of income built in.
    All sites take time to market, how much time depends on how competitive the market is.
     
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  15. bradley

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    #35
    do something worthwhile with your life. having hundreds of sites which you just don't care about, and neither do its visitors once they see it's just spam, is sad and pathetic.
     
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    #36
    Actually i do not know how do people build multiple websites and optimizing them equally. I have one main website earning me nice money. And i tried building other affiliate based websites but to no success. I even buy sites but also to no success.

    IMO, build one site first, and if you are earning $100 per day, then you should expand it by optimizing more.
     
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  17. jlawrence

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    #37
    Bradley: not entirely sure who you're aiming that comment at.

    100's of sites don't need to be spam - depending upon your deffinition of spam.
    You can build 100 affiliate sites, all different and none would be (imho) classed as spam.
    Marketting all those sites sucessfully would be a massive undertaking, but hey if you've got the time and resources then why not.
    Do I care about my affiliate sites - yes, so long as they're making money.
    Sad, pathetic - nope it's a business, if it doesn't make money then bin it and move on.
    Some people might choose to run a real world business for fun, but most wouldn't. Why should an online business be different.
     
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  18. Tommo

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    #38
    well I am probably not qualified to comment as my entire earning from adsense last month were $1.06 ....but that 100% more than the month before :D

    What I am trying to do is developing one site, try to promote it and build traffic , while that is on going I have another couple of sites with a bit of content just sat doing nothing but being spidered by google (no adverts outgoing links affiliates just pure content), and getting a few IBL links per week once I've made my mistakes with the first site I will then turn my attention to the other sites . Ideally I would like to build a couple of sites a month just to sit and wait so they are ready to go when I am confident that I can promote them to the best of my ability.

    I am activly spending time indentifying niches where I could build sites. I am starting at areas that I know well and gradually branching out , researching and learning about the subjects, If they appeal to me and I am still interested after a few weeks they get marked down a future projects.
     
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    #39

    Sounds like you will do well. Just keep chugging away!
     
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  20. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #40
    I don't know as long as I am making a good living working out of my house in my underwear, I don't feel all that sad or pathetic, In fact I kind of feel the opposite
     
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