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1 Month Old Site - G Traffic Where is Sandbox? C Class IP?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. #1
    Many people(SEO) say new sites get into Sandbox :confused: Site concerned is Wordpress Wow

    Now my question is where is sandbox, here i will be showing you an example of a website with PR8 backlinks within its first month and still gets nice traffic from Google.

    Domain Purchased -
    Dates: Created 15-mar-2007 Updated 15-mar-2007 Expires 15-mar-2008

    Site Gets hosted on 16-mar-2007

    Traffic Stats from Day 1 : [No PAID TRAFFIC]

    16 Mar 2007 7 126 367 1.21 MB
    17 Mar 2007 12 169 575 1.77 MB
    18 Mar 2007 78 536 2405 9.34 MB
    19 Mar 2007 12 123 748 3.21 MB
    20 Mar 2007 14 172 576 2.36 MB
    21 Mar 2007 21 107 637 3.00 MB
    22 Mar 2007 38 354 2374 11.04 MB
    23 Mar 2007 13 184 733 4.01 MB
    24 Mar 2007 17 81 575 2.82 MB
    25 Mar 2007 19 260 1411 9.36 MB
    26 Mar 2007 19 55 389 1.58 MB
    27 Mar 2007 24 136 718 3.78 MB
    28 Mar 2007 38 182 1237 6.48 MB
    29 Mar 2007 95 586 3507 17.52 MB
    30 Mar 2007 174 1571 8290 44.57 MB
    31 Mar 2007 123 1032 5597 30.51 MB
    01 Apr 2007 141 1066 6260 36.86 MB
    02 Apr 2007 148 1259 7300 37.89 MB
    03 Apr 2007 158 1343 7234 45.02 MB
    04 Apr 2007 193 1377 8267 46.69 MB
    05 Apr 2007 156 1338 7610 44.74 MB
    06 Apr 2007 176 1615 9456 50.80 MB
    07 Apr 2007 153 937 5624 30.21 MB
    08 Apr 2007 163 2224 10053 64.47 MB
    09 Apr 2007 194 1673 8883 47.61 MB
    10 Apr 2007 218 1419 7705 44.24 MB
    11 Apr 2007 203 1220 6810 41.60 MB
    12 Apr 2007 230 1632 9591 47.05 MB
    13 Apr 2007 227 1217 7152 40.07 MB
    14 Apr 2007 188 1063 5589 33.09 MB
    15 Apr 2007 191 1279 6614 45.60 MB
    16 Apr 2007 177 942 4956 30.23 MB
    17 Apr 2007 191 1251 6280 37.59 MB
    18 Apr 2007 158 924 5456 29.26 MB
    19 Apr 2007 152 778 4089 25.21 MB
    20 Apr 2007 215 920 5150 33.42 MB
    21 Apr 2007 144 768 4681 24.72 MB

    Bot Stats : [MARCH 2007]
    Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 25) - Full list - Last visit
    8 different robots* Hits Bandwidth Last visit
    Googlebot 886 2.02 MB 31 Mar 2007 - 21:41
    Inktomi Slurp 474 1.28 MB 31 Mar 2007 - 21:14
    Alexa (IA Archiver) 314 3.60 MB 31 Mar 2007 - 15:06
    Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') 301 991.88 KB 31 Mar 2007 - 23:23
    MSNBot 154 2.13 MB 31 Mar 2007 - 23:58
    EchO! 111 906.46 KB 31 Mar 2007 - 11:28
    AskJeeves 10 30.31 KB 25 Mar 2007 - 16:50
    Unknown robot (identified by 'robot') 3 50.77 KB 26 Mar 2007 - 21:52

    Bot Stats : [APRIL 2007 till 20th]
    Robots/Spiders visitors (Top 25) - Full list - Last visit
    8 different robots* Hits Bandwidth Last visit
    Googlebot 2023 4.94 MB 22 Apr 2007 - 16:08
    MSNBot 1189 16.13 MB 22 Apr 2007 - 17:09
    Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') 640 2.19 MB 20 Apr 2007 - 04:42
    Inktomi Slurp 479 1.26 MB 22 Apr 2007 - 16:59
    EchO! 240 2.30 MB 21 Apr 2007 - 23:53
    Alexa (IA Archiver) 27 473.77 KB 21 Apr 2007 - 13:36
    Unknown robot (identified by 'spider') 11 56.69 KB 22 Apr 2007 - 02:58
    Unknown robot (identified by 'robot') 4 53.73 KB 22 Apr 2007 - 13:27

    Traffic Stats from SEARCH Engines :

    Links from an Internet Search Engine - Full list [March 2007]
    - Google 105 105
    - Yahoo 8 8
    - MSN 3 3

    Links from an Internet Search Engine - Full list [April 2007]
    Links from an Internet Search Engine - Full list
    - Google 495 495
    - Yahoo 26 26
    - MSN 19 19
    - Unknown search engines 12 12
    - Excite 2 2
    - Dogpile 1 1

    Now as you can see this website is getting Real natural traffic from google with many backlinks given to it within a month, and the main deal is 98% of the backlinks were from the Same IP/ Same Hosting Account :)

    Now Tell me 2 things -
    1. Does Sandbox Exist or is a Myth?
    1. is C Class IP's Required to Fool google or are you fooling yourself?

    I know some of my friends who have hosted all their sites on same IP, inter linked them and getting 5-7k uniques / day from Search engines :)
    SEMrush
    The site posted above is just an example but i have several websites with huge serps & traffic from SE's from the day they are launched and still i dont understand why do you think sandbox exists.

    This thread was started because at the Delhi SEO Meet we had a small debate on sandbox exists or not and i wanted to see your views on this.
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
    SEMrush
  2. ramakrishna5uin

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    #2
    I never understand sandbox and why new websites goes into sandbox and my sites get 500-600 unique visitors with inter linking each site on c class ips

    please any one clarify
     
    ramakrishna5uin, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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  3. amitpatel_3001

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    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #4
    Hey Amit --

    Nice stats there. Goodluck to you. I was there on IM when you bought the domain.:D

    But the thing is -- IMO--SANDBOX is half-might, half-reality.

    Because --from my experience --what I get is --2/3 high PR backlinks does not matter. One can also build few thousand backlinks within a month.

    I reckon --Google is having that SANDBOX --particularly to stop --not sites like you with few thousand $$ budget. But for those sites --Start-ups by corporations --with millions of $$$$ budget --and who could buy thousands of high PR backlinks.

    Let me tell you onething-- this is all my personal understanding of Google and its SANDBOX. I have no proof to show you. I wish I had few millions to spare and check out Google's SANDBOX --if its a MIGHT or REALITY:D :p
     
    jhnrang, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    #5
    you just talking like where is GOD ? Is there any existence ? prove it ! :D :D

    well your pr8 links are trustworthy links and related...

    MattCutts already cleared a point, where the other folks still fighting with little sandbox worm.
     
    Pammer, Apr 22, 2007 IP
  6. amitpatel_3001

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    I have seen corporate sites also not in sandbox when they throw tonnes of money in


    I do have more example sites of mine with no related backlinks and still they rank from Day #1 :)
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    #7
    PR8 is a very strong backlink. So even if sandbox exist, it will take you out of that.

    Not sure about c class ip.
     
    sam1, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    C Class was my main concern because link buyers always ask me for C Class hosted IP's links and i think that it does not matter really.
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    Are they rank on valuable keywords ? if yes, we would like to see them ! :)
     
    Pammer, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    I can surely show you those in private, because i dont want to put my secret keyword/sites out :D, just need to know why c class is important :)
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    are you looking for this ? Craig Silverstein had already cleared about this one point!
     
    Pammer, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    #12
    Hight of pr really doesnt matter you can beet the higher pr websites if you have done thigs correct.

    sandbox is only on keywords and not on websites there selfs, if you linked from a very high pr website with the keywords you are after in then it can pull your website out of the sandbox for them keywords.

    Please note this is what i have lernt my self and hove found out it is true with using this mether with 4 of my websites.
     
    madkad, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    What about the C Class Myth?
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    Dude those rankings suck, nobody even types in those terms

    your site has over 100 pages indexed with no supplemental of course you will get trickle in traffic

    I think maybe you should read the sandbox FAQ because you obviously don't understand it
     
    ferret77, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    Something to do with ips on the same level, C class means a different part of the IP address changes, but I cant remember which, which makes each domain using c class appear as a totally different website.

    I know the maths, but I cant remember it atm, ill try to remember.
     
    bacanze, Apr 22, 2007 IP
  17. amitpatel_3001

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    So you mean to say the referrals iam getting from google is fake? :rolleyes: all the awstats are fake?
    what has 100 indexed pages do with this?
    where is the FAQ? did you really check the link i gave you?
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #18
    When has the sandbox ever been about traffic?

    Its about ranking for terms people search on.

    If you put a bunch of content online, get it indexed and have enough pr to stay out of supplemental, of course you will get traffic

    Read the FAQ

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=71522

    it should cover everything
     
    ferret77, Apr 22, 2007 IP
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    Nice link there buddy :)
    Does that mean having all sites on one server so google cathes all of them as a single network and bans them, to avoid this we need to host in many hosting servers just to fool google? :)
     
    amitpatel_3001, Apr 22, 2007 IP