1 link on PR4 page = 10 links on PR3 page is that right ?

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  1. #1
    Some one said me that the Google PR is algorithmic and as every SEO knows, an easy table from PR3 to PR4 is like this:

    1 link on PR2 page = 10 links on PR1 page
    1 link on PR3 page = 10 links on PR2 page
    1 link on PR4 page = 10 links on PR3 page
    1 link on PR5 page = 10 links on PR4 page

    Is that right ? kindly let me suggest about it..

    Thanks
    Bishan
     
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  2. mickmel

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    #2
    I personally believe it's a factor closer to 6, not 10, but no one other than Google knows for sure.

    Most people believe it's somewhere between 4-10.
     
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    Ask to Google Uncle, only Google can suggest you.
     
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    #4
    This is absolutely "incorrect". You don't even take into consideration som of the few factors that can effect the Pagerank value you can review from a web page.

    1. How many outbound links are on that specific web page.
    2. How many internal links are on that specific web page.
    3. How have the externals to that web page changed since the last visable Pagerank update.

    I disagree with this post and it's theory 110%
     
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    I think they are just hypothesis based on observations and assumption. Google won't reveal to your about their PR algo.
     
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    I was going with the "all things being equal" assumption, which makes his question valid. You certainly raise some good points, though.
     
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    #7
    Who said that? No one knows the Google Algorithm except google itself. Don't waste time concentrating on PR, it is useless now a days.. Try to improve your content and traffic. Good luck.
     
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    No one knows truly what the algorithm is but I think the relation between pr and the previous pr isn't as straight foward as that
     
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    I agree with you, google algorithm is so mistery, can drive me crazy just to understand it :D
     
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    As Google adds more pages to the index, this factor must go up. The last time someone tried to caculate this it was 8.02..... Since then, the world doubled the pages.

    And it's a log scale.
     
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    PR depends on many other factors such as home page rank, number of backlinks to the page with backlinks, etc. Unfortunately, there is nobody who can tell exact formula. It is a Google's know-how and they keep it confidential. :)
     
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    true, nobody knows the google algorithm. simply higher the PR the better. but one should understand that PR does not mean high SERP. but high SERP can often mean high PR because of the exposure.
     
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    You're confusing your factors. This one can remain constant.

    They simply raise the bar for a PR1, and the rest go up exponentially on their own.

    For example, suppose it used to take 10 points of actual PR to reach PR1, then 60 to reach PR2, then 360 to reach PR3, etc. If they simply make it take 11 points to reach PR1, then it will take 66 to reach PR2, then 396 to reach PR3, etc.

    I would assume Google has worked it out in such a way that the percentage of sites at each level is something they're pleased with, which would get broken if they kept raising the factor between each level -- you'd have fewer and fewer sites near the top.
     
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    I think you miss the whole point of how Pagerank works, it's not a point system at all. It's actually a probability distribution algorithm. See below to learn more...

    Pagerank Algorithm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank#Algorithm
    Probability Distrubution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_distribution
     
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    It's absolutely a point-based system. Here is the PR for a given page:

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    That number could be anywhere from 0 to infinity. They then assign a number between 0-10 to show it in the toolbar, with a factor of 6 (or 8.02 or some other number) between each step.
     
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    Google Algorithm is unknown for anyone only google INC knows it..
     
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    1 PR ZERO backlink from a website which is #1GOOGLE in your niche better than pr5-6-7 backlinks which relate to your niche , this if you looking for SE ranking .
     
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    I will be working with my friends in google. I might ask them about the true nature of google search engine.
     
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    Well obviously you need to assume ceteris paribus

    I think 1 PR4 page would equal 3-6 PR3 pages
     
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