Determine your pagerank - right now, b4 the update ...

Initial thread starter ...

I have noticed a lot of interest in the "soon to be" pagerank update.
Did you know that you already have pagerank? Every page does ...

Recently, a discussion began at WebMasterWorld:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/33121.htm
(Sorry to divert visitors over there, just a good info link)

Let's begin a discussion relating to this new discovery at DP.

Basically, I have tested the checksum methods and it seems
very accurate. Put simply - you can discover your exact PR
right now, before the update occurs by following the advice
in that thread. Thoughts?

 

Man, that's interesting ...

Reading my ass off down there, now.

You get a BIG green.

Post EDIT : We may have a new outstanding tool, because none of us here ever knew what all the :

actually mean.

 

Yes, it is very interesting. To determine your specific checksum details,
it is worth visiting this pagerank "prediction" tool:
http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_prediction

Once you type in your domain name(s) - the results will be shown, but
most important, is the link that says "check" on the results page. This
will bring you to the checksum data that is provided by Google ...

With this information, you can determine a lot about your website. For
example, by removing the "&features=Rank" off the end of the URL, you
can see an XML output of this data. If you find your own website URL,
then look for an occurence of <RK>, as this will show you your current PR!

It all sounds a bit complicated, but it seems very accurate.

 

The xml search results are especially staggering!!!

The value between <RK / > tags surely seems to be the "live pagerank "

A green rep to you for this, looks like the best method

 

cool, so with this check my home PR is actually 6 instead of the 5 I see on the toolbar, and my forum home page is 5 instead of 4 which I see on the toolbar.

That is, if I read the xml correctly.

Very interesting stuff.

 

Read the last post on WMW:

"One of the most popular tools to predict PageRank is by iWEBTOOL. This article explains why their tool does not work, and in fact, analyses the wrong data to come to its conclusion."

"...At this point, the only way to find out your websites future PageRank is to sit tight and wait for their next update!"

http://www.web-designers.biz/2006/02/google-pagerank-prediction-exposed.html

I would be happy if it was right, but I know for a fact that iwebtool isn't returning accurate results, but rather a higher PR than actual in most cases.

 

This is interesting.

I don't think this shows what your pagerank will be at an update. I think it shows exactly what your pagerank is now. I think that these would change at an update when the backlinks (etc) are updated. I know I have many backlinks of +3 pagerank that are not in the list this shows.

 

Very interesting...although I seem to be getting the same results with iwebtool's prediction itself.

 

Nice explaination to the RK , i got excited for no reason

 

Yes, it seems really accurate ... BUT ...

Your website MUST appear in the results. When you strip the URL back
to the XML format, and search for <RK /> tags - you must make sure
that the rank is actually relating to your website.

Some of my websites are not listed, even when I use their URL etc.
Basically, you can visit: http://66.249.93.99/ then type in your URL
in either www.yourdomain.com or just yourdomain.com (depending
on which type of address you were attempting to PR boost).

Once the results come up (usually just a single link - you), then you
should click on the link that says:

"Find web pages that contain the term "www.yourdomain.com"

The results that you see from this specific query, at this datacenter,
relate to the XML feed (the shortened URL). If you see your site in
the listings, then the XML will reveal your true realtime pagerank.

If you cannot see your own domain using that search, then you can
continue drifting through the results, hopefully finding it a few pages in.
If you do that, then you will need to append some extra characters on
the end of the stripped XML url. Here is an example:

To strip the checksum URL back to the XML, then you simply remove
"&features=Rank" and replace it with "&num=20&start=0" (=20, =40 ...)
to indicate how many results "in" your website URL was.

 

The thread starter should have just liinked to the address mjewel posted because that thread contains only speculation and is based off that link.

 

I am not so sure that the "article" is an accurate understanding of this info.
Keep your eye on the webmaster thread

 

Also, consider that after checking the Google XML reference:
http://code.google.com/gsa_apis/xml_reference.html that the
<RK> value is an "Integer in the range 0-10"

This is the ONLY value of such kind. Seems to me like a fairly
interesting *coincidence* right? 0-10 sounds like pagerank.

Personally, I believe the article has misunderstood the tool,
especially with consideration of the XML output.

 

The link wasnt posted when this thread was started

 

Also, to clear some things up ...

The iwebtool is not 100% accurate, but I believe the checksum data is.
If you have a website that does NOT appear in the list of websites that
are associated with your domain name, then the iwebtool gets confused.

At this point, it seems to average the scores - which is pointless. But, I
do think the checksum data is useful, in situations where you can find
your own URL. It "feels" right. I have checked a LOT of websites over
the last few days, and some remain the same, some go down, and
many are going up in pagerank. But in all situations, your site must
appear in the XML results to gain a credible figure.

Personally, I believe this is the current Pagerank of the existing page.

 

oOo sorry

Good post nonetheless.

 

What i am wondering is how long will this last? Would G have a problem with this kind of information readily available to the public if this is true?

The validity of this assumption is still not proven to be right or has it?

 

Personally, I believe that "finding" a current Pagerank for any given page is not
really all that concerning. They show the pagerank on the toolbar, and pages
are constantly shifting around depending on their given pagerank. Also, you
can basically guess your existing and current pagerank if you are listed in
the DMOZ directory between two websites of similar pagerank etc.

What I don't think they will do, is reveal how the <RK> figure was arrived at.
I believe this is a measure of a LOT of different things, including the entire
backlink catalogue for each given page - and this type of information will
never be available in its entirity.

 

Yes, good point.
I'll be watching this thread closely.

 

that's interesting.. explain some serious points.. but it sucks I can read the WMW thread