Obama Tells The Tax Truth

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  1. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #21
    Most American will never strike it rich.
    Republicans in general vote for the financial benefits of the most rich.
    Republicans in general don't care as much for the middle class as they do for the rich.

    I wonder why so much support for a party from the average Joe since that party have never stood behind his interests as it stood behind the interests of the big OIL corporations and the military industrial complex which made the most money while Bush is in office.
    The wars were a great financial success for both type of corporations the "OIL and Military".

    The republicans have prooved they would kill for money. Look no further than Iraq for proof.
     
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  2. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #22
    You are wrong. The Democrats in office have a higher income level than the republicans.

    Republicans do help the working class more

    Republicans do look after business owners more so than the Dems.

    Obama is a big backer of big oil.
     
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  3. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #23
    someone should have told Mccain that joe the plumber has not paid his taxes as it is now. He is not even a plumber and as usual does not have a pot to piss in never mind buying a business.
     
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  4. Caveman

    Caveman Peon

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    #24
    Maybe that same someone should have told obama that his campaign treasurer, MARTIN H. NESBITT, also has tax liens against him personally and against his business's...

     
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  5. pizzaman

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    #25
    the difference is that Obama is winning and mccain is not. and mccain used joe as his last chance.
     
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  6. Caveman

    Caveman Peon

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    #26
    Yeah, umm, ok :rolleyes:
     
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  7. pizzaman

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  8. Caveman

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    #28
    Polls mean shit. Ask john kerry and al-bore ;)
     
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  10. homebizseo

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    #30
    NESBITT will be able to skim enough money from the campaign contributors to pay off his liens.
     
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  11. pizzaman

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    #31
    haliberton
     
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  12. homebizseo

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    #32
    Obama will be skimming from more areas than just Halliburton.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #33
    I don't think they've infiltrated it, I think they were always there. They are just hiding it less.

    I mean, when you have to explain how an obvious and admitted redistribution of wealth, ponzi tax scheme is beneficial to people, that's pretty sad.
     
    Mia, Oct 22, 2008 IP
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    #34
    I think what you fail to realize is the total contempt that the country feels about NEOCONS and Christians[political fundies]. those are your two parasites that are endangering our country.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #35
    Nothing new there. The same select few that live in an altered state of reality are still there.
     
    Mia, Oct 22, 2008 IP
  16. earlpearl

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    #36
    As it applies to taxes there is an interesting campaign in Virginia for Senator. Two ex governors are running against one another; Gilmore as a Republican versus Warner as a Democrat.

    Virginia has a strict law in which governors are limited to 1 term. As governor Warner's term directly followed Gilmore's. Gilmore served from 1998 to 2002 and Warner from 2002 to 2006.

    Gilmore is a hard and fast economic Conservative to argues vehemently against taxes. During his term he campaigned on cutting taxes and did. Subsequently his tax cuts dramatically impacted the state and forced serious belt tightening and expense cutting during Warner's period in office. Additionally Warner started office during the dot com/telecom crash which had a big impact in Virginia cutting jobs, revenues and state taxes.

    Warner is kicking Gilmore's butt. Every poll for months has shown Warner with a very large lead ranging from about 15 points to about 25 points (%) now.

    Viriginia, despite having a growing number of democratic voters over the last decade is still seen as a dominant Republican state. It last voted for a Dem for President in 1964!!!!! It has a reputation for fighting taxes every which way.

    In this election it is astounding as voters have a chance to revote on two candidates with very clear past records. The voters emphasis on Warner is astounding in light of the strong poll orientation towards Warner and the fact that past histories are so clear and relatively recent.

    The voters have dramatic recent experiences with both candidates.

    Warner's arguments on taxes is so similar to Obama's. Gilmore's arguments are very clearly representative of McCain's current arguments. I say current because from 2000-2003 McCain argued consistently and dramatically against the very proposals he is supporting now....http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1075835

    The Virginia voters are not voting for unknowns; these two guys provide an incredibly clear history of their abilities to operate in office and present a government that works or doesn't work. They experienced both of them first hand.

    According to polls they dramatically don't buy the Gilmore tax story.

    And so it is with this election on a national basis. It appears a growing majority (at least in polls) are not buying into the McCain arguments. Nor are they buying into the radical right wing descriptions of Obama's plan.

    Too bad everyone in the nation didn't experience what the voters of Virginia experienced. The outcome would be dramatically more clear at this point if they had.
     
    earlpearl, Oct 22, 2008 IP