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The Sarah Palin Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. pizzaman

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  2. hmansfield

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    Man you are out there ! Watch the news. Palin rally's are turning into hate rally's and they are doing nothing to stop the screams of hate coming from the crowd towards Obama.

    White, Black, Cuban or Asian, it is a disgusting show of desperation from the McCain/Palin camp.
    I know a few muslims, so what. Obama knows Ayers, so what.
    McCain is in bed with the lobbyist that helped deregulate the industries that collapsed the country's economy..they are actually working for his campaign. It's not just association..they work for him..and this isn't the first time.

    You have to wonder why, if McCain warned congress of this impending disaster as he claims , why did he switch more than half of his portfolio to Real Estate and Mortgages in 2006, including some companies that are now belly up ? He sure seemed to get out in time..not so lucky for the rest of us.

    2006 Financial Assets :

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  3. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    We can trade videos all night. Number 1, Palin isnt running for president she is running for VP. Granted she should be ready to take the position if need be. And in that case, she is just as, if not more, qualified than Obama.

    Palin has a record of change and reform, what does Obama have...an ability to tell the crowd what they want to here, in well spoken English.
     
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  4. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    It is not about her. it is about him. why did he chose her? he said it was about women vote. Maybe the Christian vote? Why?
     
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    Simply, as usual, what the hell are you talking about? If you're replying to me, the video I posted is a McCain speech, and both of them are supping on sewage, not caring about what this is doing to the country - they are both trading in this kind of bald hate, simply because they are drowning in the muck of their imminent loss.

    I asked you a direct question. You said your avatar, portraying Obama as Bin Laden, would be within your sense of honor and creed, if it got one person to "not" vote for Obama.

    The speeches by McCain and Palin are incitements to hatred - as evidenced by the videos that are widely available. If an attempt was made on his life, and it succeeded - would this also be "mission accomplished" for you, as he wouldn't win the presidency?
     
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    lol, i just went to a palin rally in Naples fl. Where the Naples Sheriff, got ridiculed for using Obamas full name. Whoops didnt know that wasnt aloud!!. Palins not turning her rally's into hate rally's, the democrats are.

    The fact is The president of the US should have no affiliation whatsoever to extreme Muslims, or the likes of Ayers, and Obama does. There are plenty of men that do not have these affiliations, that are far more qualified then Barak.

    Dude, i have to be honest, i do not know much about the financial issue, all i know is both parties play an equal role. So lets let the government take the fall on that, not a particular party, can we all atleast agree to that? Or will it be more denial?
     
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  7. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    North, Read Read Read, i posted that right after pizza posted a video...you cant figure out who im talking to? I dont want Obama dead. But i dont want his communistic, socialism in Washington either
     
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    LOL - classic. Brilliant. Of course, when Palin pukes from her gorge that Obama is a traitor to America, who chooses terrorists for his bosom buddies, and the crowd shouts "Treason!" and "Kill Him!," it's, uh, the democrats [sic] fault.

    I don't know. The closer we get, the more it just seems we have a swath of people who are just really, really terrified to see an Obama presidency, for reasons having zero to do with any kind of objective reality. Come a few weeks, I hope the substantial rest of America gives them all a big hug, and a blankey - otherwise, god help us all.
     
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    old people won't have money to eat. young people won't have jobs. People die
    Mccain knew he had lost before picking palin. she provides a cover for him as far as blaming for losing the race. she will also help him, so it won't be a landslide. but she has to polarize. This is just about Mccain save face.
    I think her aim is create a boogie man out of him. You people are being scard so you do not vote for your benefits.
     
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    OK. You consider it honorable to portray him as the most hated symbol in American life, as long as it steers votes from him. And Palin's strategy, the same strategy, has resulted in threats on Obama's life, and mass hysteria chants of "Treason!" and "Terrorist!". Thanks for clearing that up. America should sleep soundly tonight.
     
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    The truth is what it is, and sometimes it hurts. Palin only spoke the truth and no one can argue that. If Americans feel anger toward obama after hearing the truth about him, there must be something wrong with him.

    Thought you were going to bed....more assumptions that's great. When are going to back up your statement about McCain collapsing under pressure?

    You dont need to preach to me about the loss of jobs, i was laid off two weeks ago due to the economic crap hole that we are all in. Lukily my wife has a medical background and thats one industry still prospering.
     
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    He is only being portrayed for what he is. No one has made him what he is but him. Dont put the blame on palin and mccain just for pointing it out
     
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    This will have to be my last contribution on this, because I'm speaking to a child's mind, in my opinion. Again, report away. A child's mind wants to be fed simple answers. It cannot think past its nose. It has little moral conscience. Your mind, as revealed here, displays these attributes, in my opinion.

    You would blame Obama for the falsehoods and hatred being foisted upon him. You would excuse his assassination under the same logic. In my opinion, yours, and other mindsets like it, is a destructive force in American life, and I am thankful that if for nothing else, the audience for such crap is withering away.
     
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    You can attack my thinking all you want. What do you want me to do, excuse the fact that the potential president of the US "pal'd" around with terrorist? Yeah lets look the other way.

    When a molester goes to prison and is beat and raped. should i feel bad for him?

    I dont wish obama dead, some may. he did associate with terrorist, and he should not be president for that reason.

    I dont care if he hates Ayers and Muslim extremist, the fact that he was associated with them and one point or another makes it an issue of national security, and im not willing to take that chance.
     
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    Simply, I don't want you to do anything, but since you're asking, I'd love it if you abstained from doing a lot of things, for the good of the country. I don't hold out any hope anything can penetrate your mind.
     
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    Yet you speak to me as if someone already has. As if i am brain washed.

    You may have a better vocabulary than i do north, but your logic is far from superior

    You know the biggest difference between you, grim, pizza and i, is that i am open minded, and will admit if im wrong about something. Fact of the matter is neither of your cases are strong enough.
     
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    Yes, precisely.

    Hence, again, why I say you cannot be reached. Again: It seems to me you seek simple answers. Having been provided them, you cling to them irrespective of further input, out of a sense of stark terror at losing the answers that made the world neat, fixed, complete. If one doesn't grow from that, one simply becomes authoritarian in outlook. It worked a good deal, on a mass scale, in 1933 Germany.

    Simply, quite some time ago, you created this thread, a thread in which you got in a lather over an e-mail hoax re: Obama's "Muslim-ness." In that thread you said, among a bunch of other pearls of wisdom:

    Quite honestly, you are susceptible to any pile of crap that comes along that fits your preconceived fears at the prospect of an Obama presidency. Then, it was an e-mail that got you in a lather over Obama's "Muslim-ness." Now, because Sarah Palin has repeatedly spewed the line that Obama is "pals with a terrorist," it's your new basis for justifying the serious hatred rising from any number of McCain-Palin rallies.

    The fact that you fall for this, over and over, should send some kind of flag up for you - but again, it won't, because I honestly don't believe you are constitutionally capable.
     
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    Dude. I am not the one in denial. You seem to be intelligent enough to know the difference between a spirited debate about the issues, and propaganda tactics to infer treason, Terrorism, and a relationship with extremist. Really ? Infer that he is somehow connected with terrorism ? That is the most pathetic thing I have seen since McCarthy accused everyone who disagreed with him of being communist.

    "If you can't win fair and square...scare the crap out of them and frighten them into voting for you". Pathetic that there are actually people stupid enough to even show up a such a desperate attempt and wave their flags, to support that travesty that has them losing their jobs, and homes, just not to have Obama in office.

    You know that Barack Obama has nothing to do with terrorist, and you know that what they are doing is hateful, it's not politics.

    If you want to keep on the Ayers issue, go ahead. There is nothing there. He knows the guy. That is all McCain has left is scare tactics, because he surely cannot discuss the economy. Even his own camp say that is a losing battle. Attack. attack. attack.

    Ignore Keating 5, Voting record in support of Bush. support of the Deregulation that destroyed the economy. Support of an invasion that had nothing to do with Bin Laden. Support of Bush's economics that screwed You over. Ignore McCain having a campaign staff full of lobbyist. Ignore, Ignore, Ignore...and you just keep spot rhetoric about Ayers....and you keep giving support to Obama because it's obvious intelligent Americans see it for the weak assed tactic that it is and they keep turning their head away from McCain in total disgust.

    It's like watching Tyson bite off Holyfield's ear because he was losing the fight.

    If you want to sit there and have that, "what...what are you talking about " nonchalant attitude like the Dems are crying wolf..go ahead. Obama's camp is actually not even giving it a second thought.

    A good measure that you may be looking like an idiot is when your own party ,and former supporters are looking at you in disgust, like many republicans are looking at McCain.

    I hope he keeps it up..the more he makes personal attacks, the more support Obama gets. as it is, he now only needs one more state to secure enough delegates to win the Presidential Election...McCain needs 8 ! 8!

    Amazing that America is a melting pot of all kinds of people and religions, but at a McCain rally, all you see is a bunch of pissed off white people in small towns, who claim to be the religious right, yet really pissed off and in disbelief that Obama is wiping the floor with McCain, and shouting angry things about him.

    It's sad actually that McCain will sell his soul and turn what would have been a great legacy into a bitter, spiteful sore loser campaign that tears apart his own party.

    Wake up man, you are missing what is really going on just to save face. McCain has lost his mind and the only people that still have any respect for him, are those that wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the second coming of Christ.

    Nice Religious Conservatives:(

    So I say....seriously, I hope McCain ad Palin stay on this personal attack, it is refreshing to see so many Americans turned off and the polls continue to explode in Obamas favor every time they look like sore losers. People are actually laughing at them. It's sad really...not to even be able to go out with grace and dignity.

    McCain doesn't even understand that other Congressman and Senators are at risk of losing thier seats, if he keeps making the republican Party look like the school yard bullies who have no character, or honor, ...there won't be another Republican controlled congress again until the Buffalo Bills Win the Super Bowl.
     
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    Obama and Bill Ayers were close associates for years, going back as far as 1995 if not earlier. According to CNN: "A review of board minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project. The Annenberg Foundation gave the project a $50 million grant to match local private funds to improve schools… Obama was asked to serve as the board chairman in 1995… For seven years, Ayers and Obama -- among many others -- worked on funding for education projects, including some projects advocated by Ayers ... The board, for example, gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Ayers' small schools project… The funding, according to records… CNN reviewed, came directly from the Annenberg foundation which Obama chaired. While working on the Annenberg project, Obama and Ayers also served together on a second charitable foundation, the Woods Fund."

    No wonder the Obama campaign wants the Ayers connection to be off-limits.


    Obama belonged to the socialist New Party, described by Lifson as "a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far-left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left." A March 22, 1998 article by John Nichols in These Times revealed, "After six years, the party has built what is arguably the most sophisticated left-leaning political operation the country has seen since the decline of the Farmer-Labor, Progressive and Non-Partisan League groupings of the early part of the century."

    - Obama has been allied with ACORN and their Project Vote, the radical leftist group now charged with massive vote fraud aimed at electing Barack Obama president of the United States. Obama has long been directly involved with ACORN. An article by Toni Foulkes of ACORN, "Case Study: Chicago-The Barack Obama Campaign," which appeared in Social Policy magazine in 2004, Foulkes revealed ACORN noticed Obama when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. Wrote Foulks: "He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois' refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act … Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar … and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them). Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office."

    Source
     
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  20. GRIM

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    Too bad these methods are only polarizing the dumbed down masses already on McCain's side, the independents from my readings have been getting sick and tired of the smears. If anything it's going to simply polarize his base, while losing him the election.

    BTW body builders far and large from my experience are extremely conservative. As such most of them support McCain 'however' for one particular reason I have been witnessing on some boards that even is being chipped away. Obama is in a great position to capture some of those moderates......
     
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