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5 Reasons why Barack Obama will mash up the US

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by worldman, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #81
    Basing an argument on whatever shit you can make up again?

    In England nobody waits for an operation that they need. Sometimes there may be a short wait on non-urgent procedures, But important surgery and procedures are done instantly. I have known 3 people rushed in for major bypass surgery. The were in theatre within 2 hours of being diagnosed.

    But still, Address the points i raise. Are you still saying that having no national health service in america encourages people to eat healthily and having a nationalised health service encouraged Norwegians to eat unhealthy? You made the claim, Defend it or retract it.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #82
    Being in the US I am still on huge waiting lists to get the care I need. My doctor had to fight to get me into the specialist I needed to see, otherwise it would have taken months. I'm still waiting on my blood results for my diagnosis.
     
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    #83
    You would expect some gains to be made in the time to treatment in England since the medical professional to patient ratio is higher due to the fact that there is no dental industry, which means more would-be dentists are funneled into the non-dental parts of the system.
    I can come up with a crappy graph that uses a flawed index like the BMI to prove it if you want me to. We can call it the BTI(Bad Teeth Index). I think google images might give us a big enough sample size.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #84
    In the US there are no waiting lists and you can usually see a specialist within 2 weeks and blood results in my area are returned within 1 week. The health care system is good and I would hate to see it socialized or nationalized. The government tends to mess things up.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #85
    Totally false.

    My 'wait' to see my specialist was over 2 months, it took a few weeks to get in under a rush priority order by my primary physician.

    Blood tests depends on the type of blood test, some come back fast, others take much longer. My results are done, the 'specialist' however since there are so few of them has not taken the time to let me know the results.

    I would hate to see it socialized as well, doesn't take away from the fact that there are indeed waiting lines in the US.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #86
    Not false at all.

    I do not live where you live and I wouldn't. There are no lines or waiting list. Well a two week list if you want to nick pick.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #87
    It is false, you stated 'In the US'

    Not 'where I live'

    You also have not been to every single type of specialist there is I am sure.
     
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    #88
    In my US its false. It a back woods hick town I do not know or care.
     
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    #89
    So your 'US' is different than others 'US'

    'It a back woods hick town I do not know or care.'

    :confused:

    That sounds like something someone from a 'backwards hick town' would say.

    You also have not gone to every specialist either, but sure it's 'true'.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #90
    So your claim that "In the US there are no waiting lists" was false then.
     
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    #91
    No, You call for an appointment and you are in. If it's a condition that needs immediate attention it is started the same day.
     
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    #92
    Totally false Homebiz, of course you don't know the facts of the matter until you go through it.

    How about waiting lines in Hospitals for beds, and emergency rooms? A very common occurrence in the US.

    http://www.boston.com/yourlife/heal...tals_strive_to_reduce_waiting_lines_for_beds/

    http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/health&id=6410794
     
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    #93
    I think your problem, homebiz, Is you find it hard to differentiate between reality and things which exist only in your head. It seems if reality contradicts how you wished it to be you just make something up then start claiming it to be fact. I await your "i know you are, but what am i" retort.
     
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    #94

    Is Grim your daddy. You guys sound a like

    In my area there are five hospitals in three towns in county . No wait at all and plenty of DR.s I live in a resort and many DR's retire to our area.


    Not false at all. 1 hour away are medical Universities and specialist are abundant. Its all about supply and demand just like in Good old England my anti -American friends. I will take my Dr's and health care any day.

    Totally false in my area.
     
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    #95
    So "in the US" there actually are waiting lists and your statement that "in the US there are no waiting list" was based on nothing more than your personal experience of the area directly around you, Which is in no way indicitive of the US as a whole.
     
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    #96
    So 'your area' equates to that of the 'US' as a whole.

    Yet again you have not had to see every single type of specialist now have you? Until you have to you don't know!

    My surgeon consults have gone pretty quickly, my neurologist specialist was pretty quick, my internal medicine doc is pretty quick, my standard doc was pretty quick, the endocrinologist who is required to diagnose what they suspect I have is a 2+ month waiting list.

    Admit you were wrong Homebiz 'your area' is not the 'US' nor does your experience of health care equate to every possible specialist field.
     
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    #97
    You must be on heavy meds and delusional.
     
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    #98
    Your add on does not even remotely prove your point of the 'US' or even your local area.

    I live near one of the major Medical Colleges in the US, even still it can be hard to find certain specialists taking new patients. Sure if I wanted to drive 4 or more hours I'm sure I could get in sooner, doesn't equate to there 'not being a waiting line'
     
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    #99
    Wow excellent debate tactic you have Homebiz. Even when you have been totally proven wrong, continue to be in complete denial, then go on the 'attack'
     
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    #100
    Not wrong at all, I suspect your DR's think it is all psychological or not serious if they are making you wait. I have never been put on a list for months and never heard anyone in my area state that. Like I said before if you want to get ticky tack its two weeks tops for the non life threatening. You stretch things like Biden.
     
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