Crowd cheers suicidal teenage jumper to his death and takes pics after his death

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by lightless, Oct 2, 2008.

  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #21
    It wasn't a suicide attack. Why is it that most suicide attackers are muslim?
     
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  2. wmghori

    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Pape's Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism (2005) controverts many widely held beliefs about suicide terrorism. Based on an analysis of every known case of suicide terrorism from 1980 to 2005 (315 attacks as part of 18 campaigns), he concludes that there is "little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions... . Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks have in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland" (p. 4). "The taproot of suicide terrorism is nationalism," he argues; it is "an extreme strategy for national liberation" (pp. 79-80). Pape's work examines groups as diverse as the Basque ETA to the Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers. Pape also notably provides further evidence to a growing body of literature that finds that the majority of suicide terrorists do not come from impoverished or uneducated background, but rather have middle class origins and a significant level of education.

    You can read the full article here. Dying to Win
     
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  3. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #23
    I don't think anyone is blaming Muslims here. They are just discussing the suicide. With regards to suicide bombers I would say that this is just manipulators using religion as an excuse to trick the ignorant to kill himself and also innocent citizens in order to achieve their own evil ends.


     
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  4. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    #24
    Anyone committing suicide places no value upon his life. Anybody committing suicide bombing places no value on either his life or those of others.

    Both are contemptible, but the latter is more contemptible.
     
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  5. avonlee1983

    avonlee1983 Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Woah.. Geeze.. this is pretty messed up :( He looks really sad and lost in the first pic they show of him. It's a shame that nobody tried to get him the help he obviously needed.
     
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  6. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    #26
    Welcome to the modern world where everyone lives together, but suffers all alone.
     
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  7. Hoster1983

    Hoster1983 Active Member

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    #27
    ahh not in this case...The guy did not say allhu akbur before jumping...
    and yeah, others did not die with him...

    Wait, that was just meant to be taken in a humorous way, eh? :rolleyes:I cannot stand anyone criticizing our President and the greatest leader in the world at the moment...
     
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  8. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Nice joke :D

    Peace,
     
    Barti1987, Oct 3, 2008 IP
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    Stroh Notable Member

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    #29
    ROFL :D He's great isn't he? He makes other presidents look like clowns :rolleyes:
     
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  10. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    #30
    So is this like the U.K's cross between the old 80's punk rockers and modern day gangs in the U.S. ?

    Are your cops carrying guns yet?
    Then we would have to "Israel is the cause of everything" and the U.K. is only reaping what they so by supporting Israel's oppressive and destructive genocide of culture and economics of everyone else in the world, because they are the root cause of all that is wrong in the universe.

    Just jumping the gun before someone else turns the thread into Israel bashing:)
     
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  11. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #31
    Hopefully no one jump the gun and turn the thread into a Muslim/Jew bashing thread, really not another of those threads. This incident seems quite isolated from both religions, more of a social problem, I would say.

     
    wisdomtool, Oct 5, 2008 IP
  12. debunked

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    #32
    You should have read things first, then we wouldn't have to point stuff out to you.
     
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  13. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #33
    It was sarcasm.

    I know who your president is, but who are you talking about when you say the greatest leader in the world?
     
    sarahk, Oct 6, 2008 IP