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Discussion in 'Link Development' started by mad4, May 16, 2006.

  1. #1
    Has anyone tried any spamming software to post blog / guestbook comment spam?
     
    mad4, May 16, 2006 IP
  2. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    I do visit a few black hat forums and the general consensus is that Google particuarly has moved on past this point. Apparently sites have been banned for this kind of thing on a regular basis.
    If this is because Google can recognise a disproportionate number of links coming from sources such as these, or though complaints directly to Google is unclear. Though it certainly isn't a long term recepie for success. Though short term gains can be made out of it.
     
    MattUK, May 16, 2006 IP
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    Also if you get caught red handed doing blackhat, Google keeps a grudge on you. Many of the times even your clean whitehat sites can get wiped as well because they are owned by you.
    Though Blgdaddy never admits, they keep on banning the sites manually of big blackhat spammers.
     
    omsolutions, May 16, 2006 IP
  4. mad4

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    #4
    Although I am not really considering doing any spamming its always been my belief that to be a good seo you need to understand how people spam the search engines.

    If a blackhat can get a site to page 1 of google for a really competitive term by spamming then there are lessons to be learned by the white hats as well.
     
    mad4, May 16, 2006 IP
  5. MattUK

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    Exactly, there are concepts that are used by black hat spammers that you can equally well apply to white or grey hat techniques.
     
    MattUK, May 16, 2006 IP
  6. Marcus_Westberg

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    I agree with your findings. Balck hat works great in the short term, but the sites will be flagged sooner rather than later by either Google or a competitor. Black hat SEO'er have to work just as hard to stay ahead of this, though some of them are obviously making some very good money indeed.
     
    MattUK, May 16, 2006 IP
  8. Marcus_Westberg

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    My advice: Stay away from it! Instead have fun and make quality pages about things you know :)
     
    Marcus_Westberg, May 16, 2006 IP
  9. adamjthompson

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    Yeh, I do some grey-hat SEO...but the more SEO I do, the paler gray my hat becomes. It's getting awful close to snow-white these days. ;) Black hat is just not worth it.
     
    adamjthompson, May 17, 2006 IP
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #10
    i think its best to do everything you can

    except messing with other peoples sites
     
    ferret77, May 17, 2006 IP
  11. Dekker

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    sooo many morons try to spam my blog every day

    hey great site!

    are usually the comments, it's very obvious and transparent
     
    Dekker, May 17, 2006 IP
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    When I optimize a site for a client I will go through the top positions and flag ALL black hat SEO sites. I recommand that everybody does the same. The Internet is cluutered enough!
     
    Christine8, May 17, 2006 IP
  13. webmasterlabor.com

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    Ouch.

    That's why I suggest the following :

    Always use REAL customized content.
    Make sure your material is READABLE
    Make sure your material is actually USEFUL
    Avoid spammy links and linking patterns
     
    webmasterlabor.com, May 17, 2006 IP
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    Do people still try blog comment and referral spam, I thought most of that stopped with nofollow?
     
    MattUK, May 18, 2006 IP
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    yup they still do..
     
    Dekker, May 18, 2006 IP
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    seojunkie Banned

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    #16
    Good move! But does it help really? ;)
     
    seojunkie, May 18, 2006 IP
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    Does that actually do anything? You could do it all day if type in any financial term into msn.
     
    ferret77, May 18, 2006 IP
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    I've never had good experiences with reporting sites to Google either. It's usually ignored.
     
    MattUK, May 18, 2006 IP
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    Referral spam is pretty much dead, thank goodness. However, there's a new variant method targetting blog owners that's being practiced currently. Very annoying. I see it working once and the webmaster will probably be too pissed to click any more links.
     
    webmasterlabor.com, May 18, 2006 IP
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    #20
    I can help you with black hat marketing pm me.
     
    money1, Nov 3, 2006 IP