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Google's Last Update: Take down Wikipedia?

Discussion in 'Google' started by megacontent, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. #1
    OK,

    I run a wiki site and the last update that Google did I noticed two things:

    1.) My wiki was severely penalized.... dropping 10 to 20+ spots for most pages
    2.) Wikipedia was severely penalized.... dropping 5+ spots for many pages

    Both run on Mediawiki. I know Google was considering that they should operate a Wiki type site. I think they might have been nervous about Wikipedia's complete take over of search results.

    So I think that Wiki structures were punished. What is common in Wiki's are tons of internal links that make Wikis fun to use, but aren't really an attempt at SEO.

    Just curious if anyone has any thoughts on this. Why were wikis penalized? and What is different about the new algorithm that penalizes wikis?

    My theory is that internal links are of much lessor value.

    Ideas?
     
    megacontent, Aug 17, 2008 IP
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  2. newbie3

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    Off course, google is preparing Google Knol !!!

    So drop for wiki, boost for knol
    Yes, google is good :sarcasm:
     
    newbie3, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  3. charroseo

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    #3
    Yes, I notice the same things that you mention and I also suppose that it's because Google want to push very hard Knol.... or hope it's the bump that always occur when a google update is on the run...
     
    charroseo, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  4. angilina

    angilina Notable Member

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    May be you are right. There can be two reason, first, google has its own Knol now. Secondly, wikipedia has plans to build their own search engine to end google SE domination.
     
    angilina, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  5. kingofsanda

    kingofsanda Peon

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    This is all very new to me, but I'm very excited about the thought of wikipedia building a search engine to compete with google.
     
    kingofsanda, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  6. abercrombie

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    true, when i first saw the opening post i first thought of wikipedia's competing search engine.
     
    abercrombie, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  7. CommonDavid

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    I wonder how they'll treat Wiki backlinks now?

    I've seen dramatic changes from longtail serps from one really good wiki backlink, even though it was a nofollow.
     
    CommonDavid, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  8. yenerich

    yenerich Active Member

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    I dont see that wikipedia was dropped.
    I just make a search for "john f kennedy" and wikipedia was #1
     
    yenerich, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  9. richardevanslee

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    Wikipedia was one or two in a number of searches today and yesterday.
     
    richardevanslee, Aug 18, 2008 IP
  10. megacontent

    megacontent Guest

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    I did notice a recovery of Wikipedia during the past week but for about 2 weeks it appeared seriously damaged in the rankings.
     
    megacontent, Aug 20, 2008 IP
  11. Niche

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    Sounds like chinese whispers to me

    I use wikipedia everyday and haven't noticed the afore mentioned drop in rankings in Wikipedia
     
    Niche, Aug 20, 2008 IP
  12. szsoomro

    szsoomro Peon

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    How come I never noticed any drops for Wikis in the SERPS? :confused: Maybe you are just being paranoid? hehe
     
    szsoomro, Aug 21, 2008 IP
  13. uttoransen

    uttoransen Prominent Member

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    i also have not seen any drop of wikipedia serps! if that happened then i could come on top for many of my keywords that wiki holds the top spots for;)
     
    uttoransen, Aug 21, 2008 IP
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    Bbau01 Well-Known Member

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    #14
    Wiki positions seem the same to me in SERP
     
    Bbau01, Aug 21, 2008 IP
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    #15
    Same positions here too.
     
    bobwrit, Aug 21, 2008 IP
  16. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    i dont think google punish a php scripts. it does not change their algo. according to a php script.

    i do not agree with you
     
    trichnosis, Aug 21, 2008 IP
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  17. microbrain

    microbrain Banned

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    I don't agree - Goolge will try it's best to make Google Knol successfull but not at the cost of penalizing wiki .

    MB
     
    microbrain, Aug 21, 2008 IP
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    I don't think google specifically target wikipedia and such sites this won't be ethical.
     
    zangief, Aug 21, 2008 IP
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    I'll bet you're right that it's because of Knol. For so long, Wikipedia has had top placement.
     
    AngelaE8654, Aug 21, 2008 IP
  20. fantozzi

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    According to Alexa, Wikipedia lost 4% of its traffic (as percentage of total daily viewpages) in the last three months and the loss according to the graph was too sharp to be by chance.

    Google brings most of the traffic to Wikipedia and it's probably the reason of the drop. Probably just a tweak of the algorithm to give less traffic to Wikipedia.
     
    fantozzi, Aug 21, 2008 IP